This is called the Euthyphro Dilemma, which refutes Divine Command Theory.
fukitol
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YOU are bound to be like God, KNOWING good and bad.
by nicolaou inlet's assume god decides what is good and bad.
does he (a) decide what is good because it is obviously good or (b) is it good simply because he says so?.
if (a) god has no choice in what is good.
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Three reasons why the disfellowshipping docrine is worse than the hell fire doctrine.
by aboveusonlysky in1 - it has far less scriptural support.. let's face it both doctrines are designed to scare people into giving their time and money to a religion but those that teach hell fire can at least point to a number of bible verses that talk about fire and death/punishment together, whereas shunning is justified by one single verse that is simply saying don't give your blessing to the antichrist.
2 - emotional pain is generally worse than physical pain.. ask anyone who is grieving or on the wrong end of an unfaithful partner which they would rather have.
would you rather your wife, child or best friend died while still loving you or shunned you while alive?.
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fukitol
Pretty ridiculous but at least you got no.3 right.
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CLAM Video: Aug 22-28 2016 – “Jehovah Will Care for Our Needs”
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inthis video showed a married brother with three children living in a nice domicile and working full time.
his employer demands that he change his working pattern such that it conflicts with his being able to attend wt meetings at the weekend.
the brother decides not to yield to his employer’s demand and is thus dismissed.. the brother seeks for work very actively over a significant period but without any alternative being found.
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fukitol
God I pity the poor, gullible, brainwashed suckers still trapped in this sucksville religion. Of which I was one.
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Can’t cope with being disfellowshipped…..Need some advice
by xxBettyBoopxx inthis site is great, i have been lurking for a while now.
but i can’t get reinstated and have used some of the advice already given.. i was df’d many months ago and go to all the meetings and do all the preparation for the meetings, but the jc committee keep refusing me.
tomorrow at the clam meeting i am puting yet another letter in and will be called for another dreadful jc meeting.. 1. what can i say to the elders to show that i am truly repentant?.
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fukitol
You should walk in, tell the elders to go fuck themselves, and walk straight out.
Then get a boyfriend, get laid, and get a life and live happily ever after.
Seriously!
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Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .
by atomant injust thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.
that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!
but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.
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fukitol
I enjoyed the 3 episode documentary 'The Code' by mathematician Marcus du Sautoy but this takes it to another level, sort of.
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Why disbelieving in God is foolish
by HopeEverLasting inlook, now before i speak, i want to say that it is very okay for someone to not believe.
are they hurting anyone?
killing anyone?
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fukitol
Religious belief and the angry God phenomenon has caused chaos, destruction, death, and wars for centuries. The time for evolving into a modern society and classifying these archaic beliefs as a mental disorder has been long overdue.
AMEN TO THAT!
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Ponderings of a Worldly Person
by Nevuela in35-year-old female in california here.
never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.
i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.
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fukitol
JWs are forbidden from living with worldly people. How can you have a JW 'roommate' when you're not a JW? Are you related to her?
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There is science that prove God exists
by HopeEverLasting injehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
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fukitol
If there is a God it's totally aloof, non-communicative, non-intervening. Not the slightest bit of evidence it notices us or cares. And if it is watching us, it has no morality since it does nothing to stop evil and suffering. So it may as well not exist.
God is irrelevant, as Buddhism teaches.
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It's official - the G.B. has replaced the Holy Spirit!
by The Searcher inthe watchtower november 2016, page 16, par.
"some may feel that they can interpret the bible on their own.
however, jesus has appointed the ‘faithful slave’ to be the only* channel for dispensing spiritual food.
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fukitol
Name one religion that doesn't demand loyalty to its religious leaders. It's just the nature of religion.
In fact, it's the nature of any money making global organisation, secular or religious.
You wanna be a member of some religious nuthouse or employee of some rapacious wealthy corporation, you gotta be loyal and tow the line.
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Famous religious skeptics
by fukitol infamous religious skeptics and non-theists abd their quotes:.
http://www.skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id14.html.
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fukitol
Famous religious skeptics and non-theists, with assorted quotes :