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  "Life is SO HARD!!" The martyrdom and moaning of the April broadcast!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  oh man!.

  the april broadcast is so manipulative when it speaks about enduring.

  the very premise makes witnesses feel burdened with a martyrdom and heavy hearted complex!

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  fukitol

  Jesus said his yoke was kindly and his load was light but that his followers must carry a torture stake. Go figure.
  
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  An earlier date when the "great multitude/crowd" was first named: "Jehovah's witnesses"

  by Doug Mason in

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  unlike the fonz, i can and do get things wrong..

  the 1946 book let god be true ascribed the name jehovahs witnesses to the great multitude:.

  page 232 of the 1952 edition.

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  fukitol

  If Jehovah called all the ancient Israelite nation his 'witnesses', how can the great crowd be Jehovah's "Witnesses" when they're not a part of "spiritual Israel" (comprises the 144k only)?
  

  If you study obscure JW theology, you'll discover that the 'other sheep' basically have no Christian status at all.

  The Society actually teaches that the Bible was not technically written for the 'other sheep', that Jesus is not technically their mediator, and they are not technically even Christians.
  
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  'great crowd' are in the temple (naos) but not in the new covenant???

  by fukitol in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in one of the biggest about-faces in watchtower history, in a 2002 question from readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in revelation 7. .

  but notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient israel.

  the statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the law covenant.

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  fukitol

  In one of the biggest about-faces in Watchtower history, in a 2002 Question from Readers it was admitted that the great crowd is indeed in the temple itself (naos) in Revelation 7.

  But notice the statement bolded below from that article comparing the great crowd to the proselytes in ancient Israel. The statement is made that the proselytes "submitted to the Law covenant."

  The Insight on the Scriptures volume 1, p.72 on 'Alien Resident' makes the same point, that these proselytes were effectively the same as any other member of 'the congregation of Israel':
  

  “The terms of the Law covenant allowed for persons of all national backgrounds to come into membership of the congregation of Israel by accepting the true worship of Jehovah and becoming circumcised … The alien resident who had become a circumcised worshiper was bound to one law with the Israelites, that is, to obey all the terms of the Law covenant.” Insight on the Scriptures, Volume 1 p.72, ‘Alien Resident’.

  The logical conclusion is that the great crowd must likewise be in the new covenant, as spiritual members the same Christian 'congregation', just as those ancient alien residents became actual members of the congregation of Israel and were literally included in the old covenant.

  great crowd and 144k = both in the naos, the temple

  great crowd and 144k = all 'domestics'.

  great crowd and 144k = both in the new covenant, as both the Israelites and alien residents were in the old covenant.

  NEW LIGHT to this effect is all the Society needs to announce to solve the worsening dilemma of increasing numbers of partakers at each memorial. They can announce that all those who believe they are prospective members of the great crowd may also now take the emblems to signify they are also in the new covenant, BUT only in the sense of being like an alien resident or proselyte also in the old law covenant, and ONLY in the sense of standing in the earthly courtyard of the temple not in the inner sanctuary reserved only for the 144k. Such new light would also make sense since they recently announced that both the anointed and other sheep are all domestics .
  

  Members of the great crowd exercise faith in Jesus' ransom sacrifice. They are spiritually clean, having "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Hence, they are declared righteous with a view to becoming friends of God and of surviving the great tribulation. (James 2:23, 25) In many ways, they are like proselytes in Israel who submitted to the Law covenant and worshiped along with the Israelites.
  
  Of course, those proselytes did not serve in the inner courtyard, where the priests performed their duties. And members of the great crowd are not in the inner courtyard of Jehovah's great spiritual temple, which courtyard represents the condition of perfect, righteous human sonship of the members of Jehovah's "holy priesthood" while they are on earth. (1 Peter 2:5) But as the heavenly elder said to John, the great crowd really is in the temple, not outside the temple area in a kind of spiritual Court of the Gentiles . What a privilege that is! And how it highlights the need for each one to maintain spiritual and moral purity at all times!" Watchtower 2002 May 1 pp.30-31
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  A theory on good and evil instincts.

  by Aleon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  good day, i am s.f.

  van der meulen.

  have any of you ever heard of my theory that explains human instincts?

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  fukitol

  I checked out your webpage. I admire your deep thinking and the time and effort you've taken to propound your philosophy and theories on such important subjects. One day I may download your book, thanks.
  
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  National Sibiling Day and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  in most of the usa and canada april 10 is national sibling day.

  the witnesses are all in a frenzie actually celebrating this in my area.

  yet in a few months these same people will shun mother and father's day.

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  fukitol

  The concept of 'sibling' is illegal in China
  
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  I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?

  by EdenOne in

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  it just dawned on me.

  the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

  so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.

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  fukitol

  Sorry, not you Cofty, I mean EdenOne is the sophist. Or I should say AssholeOne, who continues to plagiarise popular agnosticism and can't concede his silly coined 'absentheism' is the same as popular agnosticism.
  

  Neither can he admit the obvious: that something cannot be 'absent' unless that something first exists. Ie, absent is the opposite of 'present'. Unless his definition of 'God' includes the mere notion or fantastical idea of a 'God', in which case we must concede that 'God' has, as a notion or desired concept, never been absent'.
  

  But unfortunately there's not the slightest proof or evidence that any deity or God has ever been 'present' in man's affairs except in people's imagination, and in certain ancient scripture as a deliberate literary fabrication.
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  Pregnant women refuses blood

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refusal-of-blood-transfusion-mother-and-baby-die#more-4001.

  a 28-year-old woman and her unborn child have died because of the womans decision not to accept a lifesaving blood transfusion.. doctors at the royal hospital for women and prince of wales hospital in randwick, sydney, australia, have described the harrowing effect on hospital staff of two otherwise avoidable deaths.. the woman, a jehovahs witness, was seven months into her pregnancy when it was discovered she had leukaemia.. amy corderoy, health editor, reporting in the sydney morning herald states,.

  more than 80% of pregnant women suffering from the cancer, called acute promyelocytic leukaemia, will go into remission with proper treatment, and the outlook for their babies is good.. .

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  fukitol

  The murderous, criminal GB need to be brought before the International Criminal Court for offences against humanity. Just like all the murderous, cowardly, pig-ignorant, loser Muslim males currently ruining the lives of generations of Syrian innocent women and children.

  One day, in the far, far, future, the human race will not tolerate such barbarity in the name of religion anymore.

  Death to religion.
  
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  I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?

  by EdenOne in

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  it just dawned on me.

  the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

  so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.

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  fukitol

  Do you guys know what 'sophistry' means?
  
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  I'm an ABSENTHEIST. Are you also?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it just dawned on me.

  the existence of god can't be proved, neither is there evidence of god's inexistence.

  so, i'm neither theist neither atheist.

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  fukitol

  Come on guys, just admit 'God' was ancient aliens

  
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  This Year's Memorial

  by TD in

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  perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.

  it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.

  (and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).

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  fukitol

  The memorial talks are an incoherent, cold, prosaic shambles because the JW's doctrine on the subject is an incoherent shambles.

  A company shareholders meeting with the Board is more exciting and emotionally satisfying than the Memorial talk.