nanax9.........WELCOME TO JWD......It's so good to hear from you. You are very welcome here. I won't steal the thread here but I will PM you about alzheimers. So sad......
NMG
i was told today by a heavyweight elders wife, both of whom were at bethel for many years and are very well connected to the brooklyn brass, that all brooklyn bethel operations will be moved to wallkill and patterson.
in fact, there is a very exclusive walk-through next week for some of the top real estate investors/developers who will see all the properties, starting with the sands, and its lobby has now been remodeled to look just like a high-end hotel..................just fyi.................................oompa
nanax9.........WELCOME TO JWD......It's so good to hear from you. You are very welcome here. I won't steal the thread here but I will PM you about alzheimers. So sad......
NMG
after being disfellowshiped from the wt, i was born in the "truth", i find it hard to start a new life.
i was for 6 years innactive, and 2 years that i have been disfellowshiped.
unfortunately i didn't had any college degree and i have hardly finished high school.
Although my lot in life is not as desperate as yours, ar from it, fortunately, I will relate my expierence with the borg. I recieved an honrable discharge from the US Air Force in 1975. I got out as a CONSCIENCIOUS OBJECTOR for the dubs. I had been reaised a jw and in 1968 enlisted in the USAF. I was 18, Vietnam was hot and I wasn't going to jail for the jw's, I wasn't baptised, or get kiiled in war.
After 7 years in the USAF, I was on my way to a career in it, my ex wife convinced me to be a jw. After all, 1975 WAS the YEAR!!! Scared the shit out of me, the big " A" and all. So, I got out of the USAF. I had a baby, and no real job, just cleaning jobs, dub career. I worked hard just to make nothing, just food barely and rent. I then started in another dub career that has proven fruitful for me for 32 years now. That will remain private for the time being.
HOWEVER! Beacause the wts frowned on college, I never utilized my G I benefits of going to college. The US Govt pays tuition costs for veterans here. I eventually lost ut on college, thanks to the WTBTS!!!!! Now, at 58, I am limited to the income from the career that I have been in now. It will have to suffice until I retire.
Just another example of following the Unfaithful Lying indiscreet slave.
NMG
i have stopped.
it brings up too many memorys of having some elder pray for the cong before we partook of any food.
it just seemd like a big production, all would gather around and bow heads in silence while some senior male gave thanks- no more- no thanks
Ya, at thanksgiving and Christmas dinner my wife asks me to say grace. To tell you the truth about it, my heart just isn't in it any more. After being jw for so long and now not believing anything at all spiritual, what's the USE???
Words just travelling in my dining room, lost on unhearing heavenly ears.
NMG
the kh that i attended has always held it's meetings on sunday morning, and still does.
even on the days when the co visits there are normally only a handful of cars left in the parking lot after 3 pm, as the co typically quits service and heads home by 3 or 4, and besides, if you are not in his group it is usually 'take a few doors, count an hour, and get home in time to watch the game' attitude.
so today i drive by after work - it is 4 pm when i pass the kingdom hall, and the damned parking lot is just packed - maybe 45 or 50 cars in the lot.
Maybe a wedding?
NMG
i was told today by a heavyweight elders wife, both of whom were at bethel for many years and are very well connected to the brooklyn brass, that all brooklyn bethel operations will be moved to wallkill and patterson.
in fact, there is a very exclusive walk-through next week for some of the top real estate investors/developers who will see all the properties, starting with the sands, and its lobby has now been remodeled to look just like a high-end hotel..................just fyi.................................oompa
If this is the case, hmmm , how many more bethelites are going to become street people??
NMG
i was told today by a heavyweight elders wife, both of whom were at bethel for many years and are very well connected to the brooklyn brass, that all brooklyn bethel operations will be moved to wallkill and patterson.
in fact, there is a very exclusive walk-through next week for some of the top real estate investors/developers who will see all the properties, starting with the sands, and its lobby has now been remodeled to look just like a high-end hotel..................just fyi.................................oompa
I wonder if they are going to auction off the infamous READ YOUR BIBLE DAILY sign?
Any takers???
lmao
Anyways, WOW what a trip, moving out of the famous NYC land marks.
NMG
there are so many.... i remember my exfather inlaw...ben regan, he was made an elder in newport r.i and that's enough to make you doubt the whole holy spirit thing right there.. i was sitting in his living room one sunday and the phone rings...some poor black sister just got the crap beat out of her and she was crying to him on the phone, she was looking for help.. ben said.
"well you must have done something really bad to make him so mad at you...i know but...what you need to do is just have another beer and forget the whole thing"....good by.. thank god must women are not putting up with this anymore, from their husbands or religions that really don't care about them.
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In 1984, we were attending a cong that had a lot of family members and old friends that made up the body of elders. An elder that I knew and had befriende from our last cong had moved into this cong about 6 months before we did. The elders dragged their feet in re-appointing him there, as they were all GOOD OLE BOYS. Anyways, the co forced them to re-appoint him, and this happened just before we moved to this cong.
Well, we redeveloped the relationship we had with him and his wife. She was very attractive, blonde, blue eyed cute figure. He was very high profile , 6ft 2, well built and well chiseled. They were both very high maintenance. They had 3 kds, boy at the time was 10, daughter was 8 another son was 5.
Well, what happened next no one saw coming. All of a sudden his wife and kids were GONE!!! MIA. It turned out that he had been physically and mentally abusing his wife all their married life. The lder son was beaten up regularly.
Well, he finally went too far and beat her up and then kicked her when she was down on the floor. She packed up the kids and moved out west to her parents home. He was ONLY privately reproved and deleted as an elder. The GOOD OLE BOYS had a field day over that, told ya so kinda thingy.
She divorced him and never came back to this state. A couple years later he got a worldy girlfriend and then he got DF'd over that. She was married and her husband commited suicide over her. The former elder brought his hotsy girl friend into the borg. He had never been re-appointed as he is still scripturally the husband of 2 wives, his ex has never remarried.
There's alot more to this story but for confidentiality purposes I will remain silent.
NMG
the norm"... .
anyways, i write this on a laptop during the wt, lol.. ps.
while also sipping coffee (i'm sitting out back) lol.
Cognac...I really have to admire you, for a chick you have , ahem, you get the idea. Good for you!! Stand on your own 2 feet and just let your mom know what's really going on in your OWN mind. After all, I are all free moral agents, anf therefore we have the RIGHT to think what we like and feel how we feel. You ARE NOT a drone nor a clone. Hang tight girl.
When I was younger, yes I had better hand writing. Now I have a nerve problem in my right hand and I shake on occasion. Also, low sugar contributes to the shake.
NMG
much trouble... or, things to do at the mtg that will raise eyebrows but won't get you into to much trouble.. i've been thinking about this since i still go.
i'm surprised at how much a person can get away with if they are in a hall that they have no family in that particular kingdom hall.... at the memorial i put on so much dark eye make-up i was shocked my husband didn't say anything walking out the door.
instead, i got compliments, lol, not exactly what i planned on.... one of my friends who faded went to the memorial and she had a pretty low cut shirt on.
With the summer months coming ladies, a nice transparent sun dress , yellow preferably, or white, and a black thong underneath....Oh, and a nice broad sun hat, black....You are guaranteed to get all the horny elders loking and all of their wives complaining....
NMG