dawg..... Your words are EXACTLY how I feel. I feel that it is incumbent upon ME to have the older son face up to the reallity of being a REAL brother and not just a cult controlled person.
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My Son's Shunning begins......So Sad
by nomoreguilt inin an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
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My Son's Shunning begins......So Sad
by nomoreguilt inin an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
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What's the Deal with Bethel?
by Random80sKitten ini'm not a jw, never have been.. my friend described bethel as a place where one can be trained up in a trade and help with the printing of wts literature.
he described it as a self sufficient home where many witnesses aspire to go because you're only arpund other followers and it doses you up good on spirituality.
but then i read about it online and apparently there's bells ringing and quick meals and it's really hard work and it sounded somewhat like an institution?!?!
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I've known a number over the years that crashed and burned after only a year or so. The truly mind controlled ones stuck it out. My nephew LOVED his life there, UNTIL the day that he had a physical confrontation with another and they sent him home. He was and still is very emotionally unstable, has been all his life . But, he did and still does love the TRUTH. It was engrained in him from birth.
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My Son's Shunning begins......So Sad
by nomoreguilt inin an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
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Yes, the sad reality is that WE are the ones that taught them this mindset to begin with. Now, it's up to us to undo all that crap. My sons both know that I have had my differances with the org., My ex always told me that it was IMPERFECT men in a PERFECT org. However, WE all know that it's a mind control cult and that natural LOVE of family no longer plays an integral part of thier form of christianity.
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My Son's Shunning begins......So Sad
by nomoreguilt inin an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
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Yes, there is that possibility of alienating one or the other from me. I have the opportunity to further solidify my relationship with the younger one. I don't want to play the one against the other. It's not my style, nor my inclination. I am just VERY upset that the older one is using this tactic without even thinking about what he is saying. He has no idea that this is just CULT talking. But I do need to in some way let him know what the org is doing to him and his brother.
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Carry on.
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My Son's Shunning begins......So Sad
by nomoreguilt inin an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
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In an earlier thread I spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw. He's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing. So, yesterday I had the opportunity to help him move. THIS is a very good thing as I have been trying over the last few years to get our relationship back on track.
I had gotten df'd and divorced from his mother and she had very succesfully alienayed my sons and I. After my remarriage and reinstatement, they saw the light and that dad wasn't as bad as mom had made me out to be. I have a better relationship with my 34 year old son and my younger son has been coming around and things have been looking up in the last 1 year or so. I have seen him twice in this time.
Anyways, I helped him move yesterday, he's moving in with his girlfriend. During the course of this I asked him if he'd talked to his brother lately. The three of us had played golf 2 weeks ago and that was the last he'd seen him. However!!! On their drive home that day my older son brought up about his brother moving in with his girl friend.OMG!!! He told his younger brother that by doing this that he was, get this, DRAWING AWAY from him and his mother. CULT TALK!!! I said that's BULLSHIT!! He told me that the JW's were HYPOCRITES, I of course agreed with him.
So, last week, he was having dinner with his mother and she brought up the matter of him moving, and whar was his girl friend going to do? Well, he told her that they were getting the apartment together. My son told me that his mother, my EX, just dropped her look from him and got this deep dark look in her face. We all know what's coming here, don't we? The shunning is starting now, isn't it? I just know that some one is going to HAVE to tell the elders about THIS! What a shame, eh friends?
I told my son that this is not true NATURAL AFFECTION, and that I just wanted him to be happy and that it didn't matter to me about the jw's, that I had been on JWD and had learned alot about the org. He hasn't been on-line in a few years and has no desire to . No problem. I continued to let him know that I wasn't interested in jw's any longer and that what he did in his life was just that , HIS life.
We left on a very good note. We should get together more and he could call and talk to me anytime he needed. I just KNOW that he won't be welcome around his brother's home any more, and that his mother is going to distance herself from him also.
So, now, I am in a quandry. What, if anything should I say to his older brother about how he's going to treat him? Do I go out in a blase of glory and blow his perspective of the org out of sight? I have 2 sons, and I want a relationship with BOTH of them , but I can't ALLOW the older one to do this to his brother.
Any thoughts or suggestions on this friends?
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Trip to Wisconsin and Chicago
by nomoreguilt inmy wife and i may be travelling to wisconsin with perhaps a night on the town in chicago.......any one up to a visit or dinner in the area??.
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Menominee Falls. I have an old AF friend there .
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Trip to Wisconsin and Chicago
by nomoreguilt inmy wife and i may be travelling to wisconsin with perhaps a night on the town in chicago.......any one up to a visit or dinner in the area??.
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My wife and I may be travelling to Wisconsin with perhaps a night on the town in Chicago.......Any one up to a visit or dinner in the area??
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Anybody here a Jane Austen fan?
by Bonnie_Clyde innever thought i would be, but now i've watched 3 versions of sense and sensibility, 2 versions of pride and prejudice, 2 of persuasion, and 2 of emma.
also saw one of mansfield park, but i didn't like it that much.
there's only one left that i haven't seen--northanger abbey.. .
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You have a PM.......
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Would You Go Back?
by Dune inyesterday, my aunt was talking to one of my siblings about how things have been changing in our [ex] congregation for the 'better'.. she mentioned how a new circuit overseer has come in and is shaking things up.
the co appointed a ministerial servant (someone, the po & secretary didn't like and i know would never have voluntarily suggested appointment) and some of the 'brothers' that have had no 'responsibility' ever are being given #4 talks.
she also mentioned that the book study will be cancelled and the meetings are being shortened.. a ministerial servant who had a vendetta against some of the elders wants me to talk to a co and basically tell him i left the congregation [and the religion] because of the incompetence of the elders.. i'm not talking to the co and i'm not 'blaming' anyone.
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Let us come to an understanding here, ok? I WASTED 43 YEARS OF MY LIFE BASED ON LIES !! I am a truthful man and I refuse to be part and parcel to ANY BODY that spreads a LIE!!!
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