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  With whom did you discuss your doubts?

  by CHILD in

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  one sunday last fall, i read the bible online since i couldn't attend the meeting.

  i was careful to read only the kjv.

  the problem was i read a verse that was different from what i remembered fro the nwt.

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  chickpea

  i am relatively new to this ....

  "this" being an awareness that niggling doubts have blossomed into full blown disbelief.....

  i have a genuine friend who is also a "fader", and we both have danced in the margins for many months.... a recent situation which has her DEVOUT ( oh the irony) JW mother has helped get my friend's 3 children placed with a 3 time DUI, domestic abuse felon aka: their dad..... KNOWING he has no regard for the precious view on blood, or any other exclusive belief of the JWs.... several of the congregation members have quietly expressed dismay and actual disbeleif that the mother would do what she is doing, but for the "sake peace in the brotherhood" none of them will speak out.... OUTRAGEOUS and cowardly...... i toled her they are sacrificing those kids on the altar of "love" for the sake of appearances

  no one in the elder body seems to give a rat's rear end..... and i have to say, it has played a huge role in opening my eyes ( i do believe i heard the scales fall )...... i have only known of this website for about a week, but 2 days ago i took a deep breath, after prayerful consideration, and i told my mate about the website and the things i was discovering about the WTS..... and it was like a floodgate had opened.... we both kept revealing things that we had dismissed or distorted in our minds, in order to keep from "overstepping"...... today when we talked she referred to herself as a fader......

  i firmly believe we are going to walk away from all of this and i am grateful to have the alliance.....
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  A Question for those of you who run on Empty gas tanks?

  by restrangled in

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  i am going to guess there are few to no women who do this.

  it has to be mainly guys.....and why take the chance is my question?.

  i never go below 1/3 of a tank and refill.

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  chickpea

  definitely, i would never let the tank get below half in the winter.... assuming that it is parked overnight......

  i will run a tank to the warning light if i am on a trip as i compete with the spouse for mpg...... he is usu the winner.... says i drive my van like it is a race car......

  for every vehicle we have ever owned (mr. motorhead has owned easily 2 dozen in the 1/4 century we have been married) there has been a ledger for gallons/cost/mileage/mpg...

  he is one guy who does not run 'em empty
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  congregation book study 11/26/07

  by ush419 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we have the book study this week and am wondering if any of you out there have anything to add or say about it, have typed it up and here it is:.

  congregation book study nov. 26, 07 chpt 26 para 12 chpt 27 para 6. behold the ark of his covenant!.

  12 jehovah rules!

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  chickpea

  I still don't get how ... if Jesus is the 'firstborn of all creation' and preceded the angels etc., ... how it can be said that 'Jehovah's heavenly organization of spirit creatures' ( = God's symbolic wife, i.e. the angels, seraphs, cherubs) produced the Messiah and the kingdom.

  i am thinking like a dub here..... i am thinking that as the firstborn, there was yet to be the fall of man that required a kingdom arrangement.... so the Word was yet to be assigned the salvation of all humanity ... hence the "bride class" yada yada and the need for a messianic deliverer

  my head hurts
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  Be honest, Do you really Enjoy Christmas?

  by BluesBrother in

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  dansk's christmas tree thread got me to thinking .. in this house we do not celebrate since my wife is still a die hard dub.

  i have no complaints about that, it was our joint choice for decades and i an the one that changed .but as witnesses we were always given the negative view of the holiday time :-.

  "people feel that they just have to do it although they do not really want to".

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  chickpea

  i wasnt reared jw so i did have an upbringing that included holidays.... thing of it was that a bunch of drunks and family bickering made holidays hellish ......

  so now that we are permanent "faders" ( LOVE the term) i dont care what my kids chose to do, but have told them i truly do not want to re-incorporate the folderol/fa la la la la of the spendfest into my life...

  there is little discontent for me in refraining from all of that ..... but i do like the lights!! especially when they are still up around 4th of july
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  The Greatest Movie of all times...

  by zeroday in

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  rocky 1... what's yours...

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  chickpea

  jakob the liar is profound

  lion in winter has amazing repartee
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  Whats your favorite cologne/perfume?

  by purplesofa in

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  what do you like to smell on male/females?.

  inquiring minds want to know!!!.

  purps.

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  chickpea

  i work in alternative health areas including aromatherapy and i have several essential oils (EOs) that i use..... including geranium, lemongrass and rose otto...

  once when i was wearing rose, i was standing at the chalk board menu of a bistro and a woman kept inching forward behind me and finally was truly "in my personal space".... she inhaled deeply and said " i will pay you to come stand in my living room"
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  Accidentally Hit Animals with Cars ? A Problem in Rural areas-Experiences?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, hello folks.

  i have wanted to start this thread for sometime because i was curious if it has happened to any of you often.

  in the last 10 years or so it seemed that deer were attracted to my trucks like magnets .

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  chickpea

  i live on a road (on the outskirts of a small north wisconsin town.) nicknamed "venison alley".... there is a city herd that makes gardening a practice in containment and creative fencing... last fall there was a city sanctioned and supervised bow season to cull 50 from the herd ( they got 39... i think they should have had to stay out there til they got all the tags filled)

  i have hit 3 deer, 2 walked away with minimal damage to the vehicles

  one came partway thru the windshield as i caught him in a leap out of a ditch ( saw him the split second before impact) broke his neck and died instantly... i spit glass for days

  my older son has hit 2 deer.... my husband has hit one deer and a black bear..... we dont count the little critters.... as a general rule, in winter no one brakes or swerves for critters since there is the real chance of skidding off the snow covered roads....

  thankfully no one has hit a domestic animal

  wayyyyyy way back in the 70s i did hit a roadrunner on a west texas highway..... POOF!... feathers everywhere... beep! beep!

  it happens!

  godspeed

  c/p
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  revelation unexpected

  by chickpea in

  1. jw
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  so i am inactive for nearly 3 years now..... .

  huge issues dealing with molestation of my children.... long sad and sordid tale of woe and devastating outcome .

  i will confess to this.... for several years in the "truth" i was happy.

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  chickpea

  chickenpea?

  god i hope not!!

  just the lowly garbanzo bean, mates.... a moniker given me by a very dear friend... which was then shortened to c/p

  thank you for the welcomes

  godspeed

  c/p
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  "Where's your jacket brother"

  by jambon1 in

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  i remember an elder walking in the hall and it was the 1st thing he said to me as he saw me dealing with the sound dept.

  "where is your jacket"!!!!

  nice greeting!!

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  chickpea

  this one may seem a little off topic

  but it speaks to the magnitude of control being exerted over the members

  our district convention was held in an auditorium that had skywalk access to a small mall with a food court..... so for several years during my association with the society, we would take our four kids to the food court..... a nice walk after sitting for hours and an array of palatable foodstuffs ( plus no lunches to make for the harried mom!)...... hundreds of the bothers did the same..... a coffee shop in an obscure corner even set up a more visible and convenient kiosk to handle the crowds

  the first convention i missed at this same facility had annoncements that NONE of the brothers were to go to the food court, but rather remain in the auditorium to eat a lunch they had prepared beforehand ( evidently this was also emphasized in home congregations beforehand) ..... the elderly sister relating it to me told me BROTHERS were at the food court to take the names of errant ones!! and she thought that it was fine enough to have that level of scrutiny of "fellow believers"..... i saw it as insulting and controlling and have not been to a DC in 4 years
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  revelation unexpected

  by chickpea in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am inactive for nearly 3 years now..... .

  huge issues dealing with molestation of my children.... long sad and sordid tale of woe and devastating outcome .

  i will confess to this.... for several years in the "truth" i was happy.

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  chickpea

  so i am inactive for nearly 3 years now....

  huge issues dealing with molestation of my children.... long sad and sordid tale of woe and devastating outcome

  i will confess to this.... for several years in the "truth" i was happy

  but it is no comfort and now that i am away from the indoctrination, i question more than i pray....

  i feel a numbing ambivalence.....

  it is encouraging to read intelligent discussion about the issues ....

  godspeed

  c/p