http://www.prisonplanet.com/bombshell-fema-camps-confirmed.html.
former gov.
jesse ventura and his crew at conspiracy theory have blown the fema camp issue wide open in a truly groundbreaking episode from the programs second season on trutv.
It would be sad if this is true because Alex Jones is a joke. He said on his show that juice boxes and kettle chips make people gay, something about the government putting chemicals in the juice boxes that make kids gay.
The idea of FEMA camps is believable, too bad most people wont take it serious since Alex Jones has no credibility.
ok, i'll give them that, and we can talk about the NOW. NOW the watchtower covers up child rape. NOW the watchtower encourages people to let their children die rather than have a blood transfusion. NOW the watchtower promotes the shunning of mothers, fathers, daughters, sons, sisters, brothers, grandparents if one of them steps out of line with the hundreds of rules made by the leaders.i could go on and on.
past or present the watchtower has no leg to stand on.
my husband has been talking to a jw about business but the jw keeps inserting jw crap (i told my husband this would happen).
i'm not worried about my husband listening to this man (my parents' negative example had taken care of that) but it is interesting and a tad disconcerting to watch how this jw man tries to rope my husband in.
[11/6/10 7:10:18 am] tom : :d. [11/6/10 7:10:22 am] hubby: that's what it's all about!.
i love how the jw's lie about watchtower.org. health advice? lol.
maybe the effect of this change is bigger than realized?
in 1995, it was discussed (positively) by everybody, during the week we studied the wt.
one elder stepped down and was looked down upon.
wow, i never thought i'd see the day when JW's compare their docternal changes to the catholics. that is simply amazing. 15 years ago the talk was that Jehovah's org was so much better than the Catholic church that to even compare anything Jehovah's org does with the Catholic church was blasphomy of the highest order. Now I see more and more JW's using the Catholic church as a comparision for docternal changes and child molestation.
I guess if its good enough for the Catholic church, the great harlot of babylon, its good enough for Jehovah's witnesses.
I never thought I would see the day when JW's would lower their standards to such a filthy level.
But it is none the less and accurate comparision. The Jehovah's witnesses are much like the Catholic church in alot of ways.
As far as my experience with JW's reaction to the generation change, they either dont care, or dont even know its been changed.
Your average JW sitting at the meeting is not thinking about docterine, they are thinking about where they are going to go eat after the meeting.
i am.. the jehovah's witnesses religion sucks.. that's all i have to say..
hell yeah
what was it like to live in the 1950's 1960's and early 70's as a jehovah witness.when they started to push the 1975 date..
its not possible to have a discussion with debator since its clear she doesnt even having a 1st grade level of reading comprehension, and simply makes the same statement over and over again about the publications.
you have every right to clentch your eyes closed and stick you fingers in your ears when presented with clear facts that prove your position wrong. however your better off just moving on, because you look like a complete ignorant fool when you try to defend an indefensible position.
you also show a severe level of ignorance on how the organization is run, and its simply idiotic to state that those speakers at conventions were acting on their own accord and "running ahead".
im just trying to figure out why you are on here. you are like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denying the holocaust to the surviors that were there and lived through it.
you must have some kind of deep doubts that you are trying to deny and you come on this board to try to sooth your conscience.
just because you say something over and over, doesnt and will never make it true.
chapter 7 from 'shepherding the flock of god' published by the wts of penn/ny is part of their worldwide bible educational work.
the wts is a non-profit whose publications are not for sale but are freely given to those who show 'genuine' interest..... while not required, a donation is always joyfully accepted .
while admittedly my feelings were hurt by "the boys" yanking my 4shared files.. anywho.... the other part of my brain says 'it ain't personal' and just a game.....hey yall get out of 'whatever' your normal task is right!!
I have one simple question to the elders after reading this chapter:
Who the FUCK do you think you are?!?!?!?!?!?!?
this chapter proves false any claim made by JW's that elders arent judges and dont judge the friends, and that they simply are "spiritual doctors"
most of us x-jw's at one point no doubt defended the jw's when called a cult.
althought being out since 95', when i first came here it took awhile before i could use the cult word to describe the jw religion.
finding out about the pedophile scandal was disgusting, but it was probably finding out here about the wts history and terrible personal experiences of some on this board that made me finally admit that the jw's were a cult.
its threads like these with people like debator that helped me realize that JW's do not discuss subjects honestly, and on top of that insult people for simply asking questions. Then when I learned about logical fallacies I could see that JW's use these almost always when they try to debate or defend their beliefs. This thread is a perfect example. It was then, I realized that there is no way that God has anything to do with such dishonest people. I realized it was a cult after reading Steve Hassans book, and observing the behavior of JW's on the internet message boards like this one and topix. I would like to thank debator and all of the other JWs on the internet for helping me to realize that the watchtower is a cult and its members are indoctronated slaves who cannot and will not think for themselves, and will also lie to defend the watchtower, as well as cover up child rape, and also defend child rapists and attack victims of child rape.
Clearly when you have such a large group of people that defend evil, like child rape, we are not dealing with clear thinking people. We are dealing with members of a mind control cult. Debator makes that very clear. I thank you.
chapter three from 'shepherding the flock of go' published by the wts of penn/ny as part of their worldwide bible educational work.
the wts is a non-profit whose publications are not for sale but are freely given to those who show 'genuine' interest..... while not required, a donation is always joyfully accepted .
well i was going to stick to the boe ltr for a 'pre-view' but somebody deleted my sendspace links.
my god, how much bullshit do you have to put up with to be an elder? can you imagine how beaten down you must be as an elder reading this horse shit, and having to go to the training schools? how would you possibly have time to work and care for your family? i mean chapter 2 was fucking crazy!
so today was my first sunday meeting that i didn't go with my wife.
as an update she has decided not to move out right now...because she doesn't have anywhere to go.
but she is giving me the silent treatment.
sorry if i am frank, but your wife sounds like a pretty vicious person. she is being horrible to you and you dont deserve it. also, for her to just up and move like that is totally shady and makes me wonder if she had been planning this before you became an apostate. all i have to say is you DESERVE BETTER, and FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILD.
