i used to always see them preaching.
now, it seems as though they rarely are around.
the only witnesses i see, every once in a while, are the hispanic ones..
Literally an hour ago I saw JWs walk down my street (was it holy spirit? LOL). Left the "Can The Dead Really Live Again" brochure at my door, but no knock. Weird because I have 2 cars in my driveway so it's obvious someone is home.
I bet they love distributing tracts, you never have to talk to anyone, but still feel smug that you're saving lives.
But to answer your question, it's been years since I last saw them.
what do you people here on the forum think of the new jw website.
i find it strange how when i was jw they made a big deal out of the internet saying it was bad.but now they new this new website and they keep promoting on their literature..
Good point. Most sites would have a comments or discussion section to allow for commentaries. NOTHING like that here. They don't want free thoughts being exchanged.
i have learned to stay away from all religion and jehovahs wittness doctrine (that includes the watchtower and awake magazines).
stay away from positions of ministerial servant, pioneer, aux pioneer, elder, and the like.
once you become a full fledged jehovah wittness you are doomed to be unhappy.
I agree what you say except about "enjoying it at a safe distance". There is no safe distance. There is no staying on the fence. If you're not all in (or at least appear that way) you will be judged and people will avoid you as bad association. If you question any materials, you will be squashed and either must conform or be judged as apostate. This is an all-in or all-out religion. No middle ground.
what do you people here on the forum think of the new jw website.
i find it strange how when i was jw they made a big deal out of the internet saying it was bad.but now they new this new website and they keep promoting on their literature..
They seem to be doing the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" with the internet. They want to be different than the world, but also look modern and mainstream to attract new members. They flat-out lie in their attempt. For example their FAQ saying the "do not shun former members". But I have to admit, it's a decent looking site that looks way less cultish than before.
I do also believe that this is a much easier way to erase the past. They can easily change or erase old histories, books, and any content in a flash.
It's still a cult. Putting lipstick on a pig...
for me it was when i learned that gb makes their decisions by 2/3 majority vote, not by direction of holy spirit..
I had a lot of various dissonances and conflicts building up over the years. The major one was Governing Body worship. They would say in meetings how giving excessive attention to something, like sports, is idolatry. Then I see how virtually every WT, study, and prayer included mention of the GB. Isn't giving excessive attention to the "discreet" GB a form of idolatry? This really bothered me.
The other thing that really bothered me was all the talk with Consentration camps in WWII. JWs are so proud with the JW stance and how thousands died. I remember articles discussing this, even parts in assemblies smugly bragging about it. Well, yes thousands or JWs died, but MILLIONS of Jews died! What disrespect to brag about the thousands but ignore the millions who had died!
So one service meeting night in December 2007 one brother commented about the brothers in WWII, yet again, and literally that moment switch was flipped, and I had that "a ha" moment. It was then I realized I was no longer a JW. I signed up for JWD that night and told my wife a few days later. I've been only to a few meetings since, but have otherwise been out ever since.
at the congregation bible study this week, we as jehovahs witnesses studied a brochure on how we study the bible at the congregation bible study.
no wonder half of us are screwed up..
Over the years I used to always tell my wife how I hated "Meetings about meetings". They happen a lot more often than people realize.
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just saw this posted on jwtalk.
it's the cover of the jan awake in german.. the website we should remember!.
The great thing is when they push people to JW.org, the internet, then they will just as much do a search for "Jehovahs Witnesses" and find plenty of great apostate material.
I think they realized they can't fight the internet forever, so if you can't beat em, join em. I hope this backfires. Not easy to hide your cultishness on the internet.
looks like the forum went down (right after i went to bed, doh!)..
i really should get some monitoring setup but it's been pretty rock solid for ages so i've never bothered.. must be something todo with all the tinkering i've been doing and the background job i started running yesterday.. anyway, sorry for anyone who's been trying to access the site..
Glad to see you didn't blame the demons :)
i just saw this very short two minute video -- brilliant.
it's gone "viral" on the interwebs/nets.
i couldn't help but imagine that if a jw had been in this coffee shop, s/he would have been screaming "jehovah!
I love it! This just shows that even in extreme cases like this, don't fall for blaming or attributing demons, gods, spirits, etc for thing unexplained. Imagine in Bible days, those magicians who developed great slight of hand tricks were specifically labeled as being controlled by demons, and were labeled negatively as "practicers of magic".
This still would have freaked me out, but I personally would not have immediately been blaming spirits either...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5schopnecog.
it's difficult to imagine how this video could be more disingenuous and hypocritical.
cedars.
This reminds me of the Mormon ad campaign, "...and I am a Mormon". This is a way to look more mainstream and normal. Nothing here says that your friend MUST go to the Kingdom Hall, that even those who go to the KH may be labeled as bad association and you are not allowed to associate. They say nothing about not being allowed contact with this friend if he ever questions the WT. This is totally cult PR, although I admit, well done.
