for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
I never claimed to have infinite wisdom. I also only have ideas. Just because I have a problem with something doesn't mean I have the technical know-how to solve it. I guess I was thinking about Brazil's most recent constitutional change and how benefical it was to their country. I just don't think that reworking it is an absolute no-no, now or in the future.
The End (I hope?).
for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
"As far as adding amendments, I understand that the process could go on for over a century if need be."
You are correct.
"I also agree with Farkel in that the Constitution is the way it is by design."
I didn't disagree. Some people act like not thinking the U.S. Constitution is perfect is unpatriotic. Give me a break.
for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
"The Constitution is a STATIC document and was meant to be that way, except for the possibility to add amendments. Progressivism was never in the minds of its authors and "progressives" like you are very dangerous to that idea, UNLESS you have a better United States Constitution in mind."
Allow me to clarify something. I agree that the writers of the Constitution wanted the document to last forever. Of course they weren't thinking, "well hopefully this will last a few years". That doesn't mean that their good intentions were perfect or would never need revision. What I was trying to say is that, at the same time they were progressive thinkers. The U.S. Constitution included things that were forward thinking. They didn't want a remake of the English Constitution. We are obviously using "progressive" differently. I was taking the dictionary definition not the political, social, liberal one. I never even used the word "progressivism".
for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
So what are your specific issues with the Constitution?
That can't be answered simply, but I'll give you one. Article Five makes it impossible to amend certain parts of Article One. That doesn't sit well with me since Article One lays out the checks and balances of the three branches of government. If the system fails to work, then what do we do?
I make no claims to be a Constitutional scholar. I know as much as the next person. I have opinions.
it's nice to be here, this forum looks quite good.
i hope to talk to many people here and enjoy my stay.
i always love talking about religion.. .
Welcome!
sorry if i'm late on this........... http://allhiphop.com/stories/alternatives/archive/2010/02/16/22125881.aspx.
allhiphop.com: what scares you the most?.
omarion: i am not afraid of anything.
I don't need an education on how Blacks relate to each other. Any Black person that doesn't talk ghetto has been told they talk White or talk "proper" (in my case, mostly by White people). I am Black, I know how things are. Also, I have never had a Black person disparage me for thinking critically which was what CRR's first post said. I grew up in a poorer Black neighborhood and have been around judgmental, ignorant people. I do not, however believe that Black culture, in general, is disparaging towards critical thinking or getting educated. If it was, why are Black woman having the biggest gains in college enrollment? Not without support. Things are changing, minds are changing. Including Black ones!
"Talking White" was not the issue I was addressing. Plenty of "White talking" Black folks don't get educated and plenty of Blacks with negro accents have PhDs.
i saw 6 jw zombies walking up a hill near where i live the other day.
they all were dressed nicely.
they walked together in twos.
I miss the certainty I had being in the cult. I was certain that I would live forever. I was certain there was a God. I was certain that my parent's love was unconditional. Now I only have an endless list of epistemological and cosmological questions that often make me anxious and depressed.
for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
"Where exactly, would you have it reworked?"
Are you asking for the specific Longitudinal/Latitudinal location?
"It's not simple to add Amendments. It's damn near impossible to add them. That was done on purpose by our Founding Fathers."
I never said, nor implied, that amending the U.S. Constitution is simple. The Amendments are pretty few and far between in the big scheme of things. Still, we shouldn't limit ourselves to only doing simple things, especially for the country's sake, should we?
"Rubbish. They authors weren't trying to think "Progressively""
Progressive is defined as: favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp.in political matters.
Of course they were being progressive. They didn't simply say, the King has all the power. Part of the reason the Constitution has withstood the test of time was because it's authors were trying to create a document that would take the future into account. They learned from the past and tried to anticipate the future. It's why they put in checks and balances, it's why they laid out a way to amend it. This is progressive thinking at its best. Still, after hundreds of years a document can become antiquated and should be revisited.
"The Constitution was written mostly to protect the people from Governmental tyranny, not to solve day-to-day problems. Do you even know your history?"
I didn't say otherwise. You don't even know what my specific issues are with the Constitution. I never said anything about it attempting to address day-to-day problems. You are guilty of a straw man argument. You have ignored my actual position and substituted it was a misrepresntation or assumption.
sorry if i'm late on this........... http://allhiphop.com/stories/alternatives/archive/2010/02/16/22125881.aspx.
allhiphop.com: what scares you the most?.
omarion: i am not afraid of anything.
"critical thinkers are seen as being "too white thinking""
That hasn't been my experience. I have never gotten anything but praise from other Blacks about getting an education. Who are you hanging around with?
for example, if you were stopped for suspiscion of driving under the influence, should the police be allowed to search through your cell phone?.
"Can anyone seriously argue that the 4th and 5th Amendments were written and enacted for the sole purpose of protecting only criminals? I'd like to see someone argue THAT one."
Not that I disagree with you, but our Constitution needs to be reworked. Simply adding Amendments isn't the answer. As hard as the authors tried to think progressively, they weren't able to think of everything and too many things have multiple interpretations.
