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  Was Adam tested by God in the genesis accoint ?

  by cluless in

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  as a witness we were taught adam was created pertect and that god tested him by forbidding him to eat from the tree of knowledge.. but to my knowledge nowhere in the bible does it say adam was created perfect.

  matter of fact after adam was created god said only that "it was very good.

  also why do they teach adam was tested by god with the tree of knowledge.

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  cluless

  As a witness we were taught Adam was created pertect and that God tested him by forbidding him to eat from the tree of knowledge.

  But to my knowledge nowhere in the bible does it say Adam was created perfect. Matter of fact after Adam was created God said only that "it was very good."

  Also why do they teach Adam was tested by God with the tree of knowledge. To my understanding Adam was commanded not to eat from the tree of knowledge, And a commandment is not a test.

  Actually I was thinking that if Adam hadnt have loved Eve then it would have been a blessing not to eat from the tree of knowledge. The greater Adams love for Eve the harder to obay. And unless anybody has loved with the depth of love Adam loved Eve who are they to judge.

  Of course the whole accout may be bunk.But its a great story to challenge ones thinking .
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  Whos to blame ? Have we learnt?

  by cluless in

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  being lied to by the watchtower hurt.

  it hurt because when i exposed these lies to members of the congregation i discoverd they preferd the lie to truth.

  that they would compromise there family there integrity and friends to continue living a lie.

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  Hi

  Mill

  I totally agree with everything you say 1000%.

  Only I also belive the Cigarette Industry or Jehovahs Witness mentality was not invented by me.

  I have the right to experiment with what I do not know. And then with knowledge of what I did not know I have the right to say "F... S... and P.... on it.

  The thing is we want our kids not to experiment with what will damage them. Cigarettes ... Being a J:W: ..whatever Iam sure they will find there own vises. My only hope is there vises become virtures .Even my son being a J:W is ok with me. If thats what he wants. If thats what he really wants.
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  Could you have written this "letter"?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
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  (maybe i could once have written a similar letter.

  but not today ).

  matter of fact i could hardly be botherd to read the letter.

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  cluless

  Hi COC

  Sorry if I OFFENDED with my comment.
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  Whos to blame ? Have we learnt?

  by cluless in

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  being lied to by the watchtower hurt.

  it hurt because when i exposed these lies to members of the congregation i discoverd they preferd the lie to truth.

  that they would compromise there family there integrity and friends to continue living a lie.

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  Mili

  In my thread you didnt disagree with me on anything I wrote.

  Matter of fact I agree on everything you said.

  What I was trying to say was we are accountable for the decisions we make. Only it concernd me how awake we are to the decisions we make!!!

  But nothing on nobody:

  I take full responsibility for being missled by anybody. Problem is this learning does come with experince.

  And with experience comes learning and with learning comes blame. But learning and blaming people doesnt make them accountable.
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  Could you have written this "letter"?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (maybe i could once have written a similar letter.

  but not today ).

  matter of fact i could hardly be botherd to read the letter.

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  cluless

  No. (maybe I could ONCE have written a similar letter. But not today ). Matter of fact I could hardly be botherd to read the letter. For better or worse my life has become much more shallow. I enjoy the old western series (Wagon-Train..Virginian ..Hondo. I also now enjoy reading football books going to matches and drinking guinness in the pub afterward with similar such minded people.

  In fact I couldnt even contemplate my 4 year old son growing up and writting such a letter. Although as the French say "The future is however not ours to see)"
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  Whos to blame ? Have we learnt?

  by cluless in

  1. jw
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  being lied to by the watchtower hurt.

  it hurt because when i exposed these lies to members of the congregation i discoverd they preferd the lie to truth.

  that they would compromise there family there integrity and friends to continue living a lie.

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  cluless

  Being lied to by the Watchtower hurt. It hurt because when I exposed these lies to members of the congregation I discoverd they preferd the lie to truth. That they would compromise there family there integrity and friends to continue living a lie. SAD. i dont blame the watchtower for this .This sence of inadacurcy is for there pyschioquist not the watchtower.

  But then I must admit getting started in life I made money by selling products I knew were cons..Worse I have no remorse.

  Now I have triead and triead to finnish smoking. Iam winning. Still an occassional smoker. But going in the right direction. The struggle to be going in the right direction has taken years. The habit may easily have shorternd my life.I feal no anamosity to those I buy the cigs from. I see the Top Bosses of the smoking companies as evil (Even if they do smoke themselfs) I do not see the promoters of there products as evil. I. I dont blame the Watchtower for my smoking. ( I began to smoke through a return-call) I blame the return-call because he wanted me hooked (That makes it personal).......I do not blame myself for getting hooked. But I hate myself having been so weak.

  So to cut a long story short. Life is( to me ) ovbiously one big advirtistment. We leave the Watchtower and maybe fall for bigger and greater cons without realising we are hooked.Its also funny how we aportion the blame.

  Sorry for the bad spelling.
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  What bad qualities make a friend ?

  by cluless in

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  Many a thing a person does is right or wrong according to the time or place....if you strip away the circunstances and the surrounding meaning of that action then what we thougt was bad was good.
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  Can JWs take Intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG)?

  by SixofNine in

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  i'm assuming yes, but if anyone has definitive info, it would be appreciated.

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  YES..NO... YES...NO YES....

  In the history of Jehovahs Witnesses has there ever been a disfellowshiping for Intravenous immuoglobulin (IVIG).

  I always regreted not asking for a detailed list of difellowshiping offences.!!!

  What is INTRAVENOUS IMMUNOGLOBULIN ? (Is it contagiouse?)
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  Why do we give admiration to those who are 'sincere'?

  by carla in

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  side note:dear coco, this is not directed at you, i have been wanting to ask this for a long time and it was simply the use of the word 'sincere' that reminded me).

  why do we in society hold sincerity to such a high moral standard?

  many are sincere but it doesn't make them less evil does it?

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  Why do people smoke ?
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  What bad qualities make a friend ?

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