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  What Is The Most Absurd JW Belief or View?

  by minimus in

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  there are many silly doctines and viewpoints.. one of the strangest ones is the blood doctrine.. why anyone could logically accept this belief is beyond reason..

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  > That their leaders shy away from being called "inspired of God" while boasting that they are the only spirit-directed religious organization on earth.
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  Steve Martin - Atheists Don't Have no Songs, Until Now

  by cofty in

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  .... catholics,.

  dress up for mass.. and listen to,.

  gregorian chants.. atheists,.

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  Imagine - if atheists actually had a song!
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  Fanatics Fear Education

  by Hortensia in

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  yup.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23282662.

  it's true, islamic fanatics or jw fanatics -- they all fear education.

  learn enough and you'll see through their bs and leave..

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  Malala is one of this world's true heroes. I think her pro-education side will eventually win out because the forces for good usually struggle long enough until better conditions are attained.
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  Remember what happened in 2005?

  by Terry in

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  would any of us defend the right of a medicine manufacturer to advertise curative powers without side effects when evidence to the contrary was indicated?.

  would any of us defend the right of a pharmacist to make up his own prescriptions and pass it off as what our physician specifically gave to us?.

  would any of us approve equal time for tv advertisers to promote products as effective which had repeatedly proved to be dangerous?.

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  Data-Dog, here is the explanation from Peter Mosier, the ex-JW who owned the website:

  http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/jws-vs-the-world/watchtower-shuts-down-quotes-website/

  Slimboyfat, you are misinformed or just don't know. Below I pasted the relevant portion from the "Q and A" portion of the above website:

  Q:But their case is completely without merit! Their arguments in the Statement of Claim are not even internally consistent! You didn’t break any copyright laws! How can you let them get away with this B.S.??

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  “We are not talking about ‘right’ and ‘wrong’, Arthur. We are talking about The Law” — the lawyer on the TV show WKRP in Cincinnati

  I must say, I was very naive. I felt, and still feel, that my Watch Tower Quotes web site was fully in compliance with copyright law, and therefore I felt I was safe and would be held harmless. But I was naive to think that just because I was not breaking any laws, WTS would be unable to do anything. Obviously, I overestimated their decency; or perhaps, underestimated their ability to “frame mischief by law”. I felt that only radical groups like Scientology would stoop to the strong-arm tactics of a law suit. Obviously, I was wrong.

  They have access to millions of dollars of cash and assets, and also have the convenience of in-house legal counsel (clothed, housed, and paid for through tax-exempt donations). IMO, WTS is 80% printing/publisher, and 20% law firm. Keep in mind, you don’t have to be a very good lawyer to harass someone by launching a suit. BTW, WTS retained a TOP Intellectual Property law firm. I think, amazingly, they actually sincerely expected to litigate this. Obviously they overestimated how deep “Satan’s” pockets are! I wonder if any of the tax-exempt “Katrina Relief” or “Asian Tsunami Relief” money ended up paying for lawyers, thanks to it being labelled only for the “Worldwide Work”? (I’m just speculating here.)
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  If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?

  by UnConfused in

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  James,

  Is Trayvon Martin on trial here?
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  If you were on the Zimmerman jury, how would you vote? 2nd degree murder, manslaughter or innocent?

  by UnConfused in

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  "Innocent" is not one of the jury's choices. "Not Guilty" is the legal term if they cannot find him guilty.
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  Remember what happened in 2005?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
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  would any of us defend the right of a medicine manufacturer to advertise curative powers without side effects when evidence to the contrary was indicated?.

  would any of us defend the right of a pharmacist to make up his own prescriptions and pass it off as what our physician specifically gave to us?.

  would any of us approve equal time for tv advertisers to promote products as effective which had repeatedly proved to be dangerous?.

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  In the United States, religion in general is the least regulated enterprise that has the most harmful effects on people. See how evangelical Christianity has wreaked havoc with American politics and lawmaking -- and yet pay no taxes for that privilege.
  
  The original Watchtower Quotes website was shut down, to be sure. However several enterprising apostates got ahead of the WT Society (yes they "ran ahead" of the organization) and set up mirror websites, many of which can be easily found to this day. The WT Society has surrendered and has decided not to play whack-a-mole, realizing that anytime they try their heavy-handed Internet censorship that many people will come out of the woodwork to stop them.
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  One less celebrity Scientologist

  by Gopher in

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  it makes me very happy when a popular celebrity leaves a cult, because it could give others the courage to do it or start to think about leaving.. leah remini played carrie on "the king of queens", and has also been on "saved by the bell", "the talk" and had small parts in other shows.. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/leah-remini-leaves-church-of-scientology-calls-it-corrupt-report-2013117.

  leah remini leaves church of scientology, calls it "corrupt": report.

  the church of scientology has one less celebrity among its ranks, according to a new report: leah remini.

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  Hi Las Malvinas:

  One way the Scientology organization is similar to the Watchtower corporation is that they both are real-estate titans. We have a fancy Scientology facility here in Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA where I live. It's the last of their big buildings pictured here in this link:

  http://www.businessinsider.com/outrageous-scientology-buildings-2012-1?op=1
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  Leah Remini has apparently had enough of Scientology ... so familiar ...

  by Bella15 in

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  the former king of queens star has left the church of scientology, the hollywood reporter confirms.. on thursday, the new york post initially reported that remini had decided to quit the controversial religion, citing a source's claim that the 43-year-old actress had been subjected to years of "interrogations" and "thought modification.".

  the new york post's source added that remini decided to cease being a parishioner, in part, because of policies preventing members to question the leadership of david miscavige.. when asked for a comment, a rep for the church of scientology told e!

  news: "the church respects the privacy of parishioners and has no comment about any individual church member.".

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  Hi Las Malvinas:

  One way the Scientology organization is similar to the Watchtower corporation is that they both are real-estate titans. We have such a "million dollar Scientology facility" here in Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA where I live. It's the last of their big buildings pictured here in this link:

  http://www.businessinsider.com/outrageous-scientology-buildings-2012-1?op=1
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  Leah Remini has apparently had enough of Scientology ... so familiar ...

  by Bella15 in

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  the former king of queens star has left the church of scientology, the hollywood reporter confirms.. on thursday, the new york post initially reported that remini had decided to quit the controversial religion, citing a source's claim that the 43-year-old actress had been subjected to years of "interrogations" and "thought modification.".

  the new york post's source added that remini decided to cease being a parishioner, in part, because of policies preventing members to question the leadership of david miscavige.. when asked for a comment, a rep for the church of scientology told e!

  news: "the church respects the privacy of parishioners and has no comment about any individual church member.".

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  Thanks for the update. We started a similar topic over here, some interesting comments FYI:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/257117/1/One-less-celebrity-Scientologist