Well then if ONE LAMB is a literal number. Therefore we must take as literal that it is a LAMB not a human that is with the 144,00. So the 144,000 mediate with a small fluffy white animal. Explains why their wooly-minded teachings.
Posts by Gordy
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37Have You Ever Heard This Explanation Why 144,000 is a Literal Number?
by Had Enough inthe speaker said tonight (yes i went to the memorial to appease my worried family .
well he said its very simple....the scripture talks about the lamb and the 144,000. it doesn't say lambs as in more than one....no, it says lamb referring to the "literal number of one lamb".. so thats how we know that the 144,000 is a literal number and not symbolic like all the rest of revelation.. ok....now am i going bonkers...or has anyone else every heard that explanation before?
i know i never have and that doesn't make any sense to me at all.. had enough
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Forced taxation of branch overseer in Sweden ............
by TheOldHippie inthe branch overseer in sweden has received a forced or increased income taxation by the authorities.
they have estimated his personal income to the equivallent of 24,000$, which he has not declared.
they have estimated this amount based upon the value of free living quarters, food and car.
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Gordy
Please, Please don't let it be a joke.
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Gordy
I remember being told that the Memorial had to take place on the night of the first full moon after the spring eqiunox.
That being the time of when the Jewish Passover was held.
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Can jws be sued for trespress(sp?)
by badboy in.
i understand from a new book that if you put up a`no hawkers' and/or `no trespressers' sign or something like that,that you can sue an individual for trespressing.. not exactly sure if i have got this right.
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Gordy
It was once explain by a JW Elder who was also a lawyer.
That in England any pathway to a front door was called an "invitation to call" as long as a person calling stayed on the pathway they could not be called trespassers.
As long as a person stayed on the pathway, didn't step off it on to the land either side of it, or did not cross the doorstep without invitation, they could not be called trespassers.,
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Gordy
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'Passion' Moves Beyond $250 Million Mark
by Yizuman inlink: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040314/ap_on_en_mo/box_office .
edit: kept showing not found, pasting it instead...... .
"secret window" averaged $6,296 in 3,018 theaters, "agent cody banks" did $2,691 in 2,973 cinemas and "spartan" averaged $2,440 in 832 locations.
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Gordy
My church has booked a local 400 seat cinema to see the Passion.
6pm March 26th.
Seats are £4 instead of £5.20
Asked to bring someone to see it
If you can't afford to pay, it will be free.
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Is there a collection of all these creatively re-titled Watchtower covers?
by somebodylovesme ini showed my husband one that's in my topic (in adult & heated debate) and he laughed sooooo hard.
he was wondering if there are more posted anywhere.
i don't even know how to search for that on the site.
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JW's in Ethiopia arrested.
by Gordy indon't know if been posted, couldn't find it.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.
eritrea: torture fears for 28 jehovah's witnesses arrested, including 90-year-old man .
on 24 january 2004 eritrean police arrested 38 members of the jehovah's witnesses religion who were holding a religious service in a private home in the capital, asmara.
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Gordy
Had this sent to me. Don't know if been posted, couldn't find it.
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Eritrea: Torture fears for 28 Jehovah's Witnesses arrested, including 90-year-old man On 24 January 2004 Eritrean police arrested 38 members of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion who were holding a religious service in a private home in the capital, Asmara. Ten were released without charge but 28 remain in custody, including children and a 90-year-old man. The whereabouts of the 28 are not known, but they are believed to be held in one of Eritrea's many secret detention centres. The Eritrean authorities have not publicly acknowledged the arrests or given any reason for them. Amnesty International fears the 28 could be tortured or ill-treated to force them to abandon their faith, and that those of conscription age (18-40 years) could be forced into military service and tortured if, in accordance with the principles of their faith, they refuse. Amnesty International UK Media Director Lesley Warner said: "Nobody should be persecuted for peacefully practising their religion. "Amnesty members world-wide are urgently appealing for the immediate release of these prisoners of conscience." Amnesty International also raised the alarm last year September when 57 boy and girl members of minority Christian churches were arrested for possession of bibles, and held in metal shipping containers at Sawa military camp in western Eritrea. The children were held in unventilated, overcrowded and extremely hot conditions, with inadequate food and medical care. Amnesty International members called for their immediate and unconditional release. Background Information The Eritrean Constitution guarantees the right to freedom of religion. However, Jehovah's Witnesses in Eritrea (who number about 1,600) have frequently been arrested on account of their faith's principle of refusing military service. In 1994 the government stripped all members of the religion of basic civil and political rights. In March 2002, along with at least 12 minority Christian sects, they were prohibited from practising their religion and were ordered to register with the Department of Religious Affairs. None of these faiths has been granted a permit so far and some have refused on principle to comply with the far- reaching order to disclose details of their membership, foreign funding and activities. Over 330 members of these faiths who were arrested in 2003 are detained incommunicado in secret prisons without charge or trial, including scores of conscripts. Many have been tortured or ill-treated in attempts to force them to abandon their faith. Former detainees at a secret 8000-inmate prison on the main Dahlak island in the Red Sea have recently given testimony that inmates found praying have been tortured, and that bibles and religious audio-cassettes have been burned. Three Jehovah's Witnesses have been detained incommunicado in Sawa military training centre in western Eritrea since 1994, without charge or trial, for refusing to bear arms. National service is compulsory for all men and women aged 18 to 40, with no observance of the internationally-recognised right to conscientious objection. It is supposed to consist of six months' military service, and 12 months non-military duties. In practice, since the Ethiopian war (1998-2000), national service has generally turned into indefinite military service.
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That Elder Mentality
by Englishman inexactly what does it mean to have "an elder mentality"?
i'm curious.
elders didn't exist when i left the jw's.
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Gordy
It means you have to be mental to be an Elder
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Did You Ever Tell An Elder Something Confidential Only To Hear It Blabbed??
by minimus inelders are supposed to maintain confidentiality.
if they don't, they can be deleted as elders.
still, one of the biggest complaints that i can recall from some in the congregation, was that elder so-and-so told his wife or another ms that someone had a problem or had to be counseled.....did it ever happen to you?
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Gordy
About a month after I was "privately reproved" at a my JC meeting. A friend who is an Elder in another congregation, 50 miles away, c spoke to me at the Circuit Assembly. He said he was sorry to hear whathad happened, then proceeded to to say exactly what had taken place at my JC and a couple of other things. I asked how he knew, he said there are a couple of Elders in my congregation who can't keep their mouths shut, over anything told them.