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  The Clear Biblical Case Against "The Memorial".

  by Chalam in

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  hello jwners,.

  i was reading acts 20 the other day and noted how it makes a clear case against the annual "memorial" as instructed by the wt.. acts 20

  paul in macedonia and greece6 but we sailed away from philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and in five days we came to them at troas, where we stayed for seven days.. eutychus raised from the dead7 on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight.. .

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  Chalam

  Hope you are all doing well! 😍

  To quote myself 😂 "Just dropping in to give this thread a timely bounce"
  
  

  Blessings in Christ,

  Stephen xx
  
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  "But the Basics haven't changed"

  by Phizzy in

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  a couple of days ago in town i met a jw guy i have known since he was a kid in diapers, he is now an elder and must be 40 yrs old, still a kid to me, though.. he gave me the spiel about "we would love to see you come back " , i said that i could not come back to the religion i had left as it no longer existed (a line i got from my friend bill), this elder replied that there "had been changes, but the basics remain the same".. i just was not quick enough with this one, i just sort of nodded at that and went on about what i simply could not swallow as "truth".

  overlapping generation etc etc.. what he was meaning by the basics being the same is that nothing has changed on the "what jw's don't believe in" front, i.e trinity, immortal soul etc.

  the reality it is that the basics of jw/wt teachings about what they do believe in have all changed !.

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  Beautifully put villagegirl :)

  Possibly the core doctrine is regarding the 144, 000. Accordingly, you can be a "Christian" and not follow Christ but rather the "F&DS". Also, none of the New Testament applies to you or neither can you even understand it because it is only for the 144, 000!

  Stephen
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  When we die...

  by Finallyfree12 in

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  do you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?

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  Here you go LV :)

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4lgvZ5MCZ4

  Stephen
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  When we die...

  by Finallyfree12 in

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  do you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?

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  Chalam

  My mistake LV! You are correct about the names. Like I said, I read the book a couple of years ago.

  There are plenty of accounts of heaven (and hell). The first I watched was Ian McCormack. I think the name is correct? :) He is commonly callec the "box jellyfish man". Have a google and you'll find him. His account is awesome!

  Stephen
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  Broad and Spacious Road to Destruction, or Narrow Gate to Life??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so we all know of the parable / illustration at matt 7:13.

  "go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones finding it, or going in through it".

  here is a brain snapping thought that hit me!:.

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  Chalam

  Sorry, didn't see you post Faithful Witness!

  Stephen
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  Broad and Spacious Road to Destruction, or Narrow Gate to Life??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so we all know of the parable / illustration at matt 7:13.

  "go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones finding it, or going in through it".

  here is a brain snapping thought that hit me!:.

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  Chalam

  "So we all know of the parable / illustration at Matt 7:13

  "go in through the narrow gate, because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones finding it, or going in through it"

  Here is a brain snapping thought that hit me!:

  The broad / spacious road is in fact the WT society (well, they love boasting about their rapidly increasing numbers dont they!?)

  The narrow gate to life is those not willing to just be drawn along with the crowd of WT followers!

  Ponder that......"

  Yes indeed stuckinarut2 A JW I know has a reoccuring dream with this very thing.

  According to John, Jesus is the way and also He is the door to the narrow way.

  He says "come to me" but JWs go to the WT.

  John 5:39-41

  English Standard Version Anglicised (ESVUK)

  39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.

  Ask Him to let you in and lead you along the way :)

  Stephen
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  When we die...

  by Finallyfree12 in

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  do you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?

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  Chalam

  Sorry for the delay LV! OK, here goes.

  "Stephen - few questions. This is the same heaven visit I heard about on the xtian radio station and they were interviewing the parents right after the child's had relayed his experience to his parents.

  Do you know whether or not the child's father is a preacher/minister? Seems he was - or is? Also, the interviewer asked the father whether the child had possibly overheard the parents discussing the miscarriage of the baby sister - which the father admitted he knew something about."

  Can't remember about the father's occupation. However, from what I read in the book there was absolutely zero possibility of Todd have gained this knowledge on earth either consciously or unconsiously. He knew things about the family and recognised his grandfather in a photo as a young man who he had never met at any age. He saw what his father was doing and saying when he left his body. He knew he had a sister who was still born who he met in heaven etc. It was a couple of years ago I read the book so I am sure there are other things.

  Of course, the flesh will try to explain away every thing that faith demonstrates and the Spirit confirms. They are apposed.

  "Do they reveal any of this in the movie? I want to see the movie and should have listened to the rest of the interview but didn't believe it - what do I know! The truth is hard to believe sometimes."

  The book certainly does. I guess the film does in a similar way but I have not seen it so can't comment for sure.

  "I've heard the Catholic (Immaculate Heart Radio) station mentioning the account about heaven (and movie) to callers - seems they were promoting along with a call for Catholics to 'Come Home'. I really don't pay much attn. other than listening to this one family shrink when I'm driving one morning a week. I will try to find out his website and any info about movie."

  Yes, I wholly recommend it and the book. Heaven is certainly for real! I haven't seen it but I know it is more real than any on earth.

  I had two words of knowledge (1 Cor 12) given to me recently. The first was from a person I have never met in my life. He spoke around ten different things which confirmed what God had already been speaking to me about and dealing with. One of them absolutely no-one knew a thing about, not friends, family or even my wife. Even the prophet was a little surprised about what it concerned. I told him he was right on the money about this very specific and serious issue and I said it had been dealt with. He wanted to pray about it anyhow so we did :)

  The second word was from a person in my church (who I don't know very well) and concerned my thoughts regarding the first situation. Once again, they had zero knowledge regarding it as only myself, the person I met two months previously and my wife does. However, they clearly described how I felt at the time and told me how the Lord is going to safeguard me in the future.

  The Spirit of God know all things. It was by the Spirit which revealed these things to the two who prayed with me recently and also the boy Todd. Get to know the voice of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. He speaks in multifarious ways so stay tuned!

  Stephen
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  Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

  by Faithful Witness in

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  miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

  our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

  ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

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  They are blind guides in complete darkness.

  The truth is not a thing, a doctrine or a thought process but rather a person.

  John 14:6

  English Standard Version Anglicised (ESVUK)

  6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

  John 8:31-32

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  The Truth Will Set You Free

  31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

  John 17:16-18

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  16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world.

  1 John 2:3-5

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  3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him:

  The Spirit of Jesus is the truth. JWs neither know Jesus or have His Spirit living within them.

  John 16:13

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  13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, butwhatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.

  Neither can they approach the Father or even worship Him.

  John 4:22-24

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  22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

  Stephen
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  Strike 3 for the elderette and me! (???) I never heard a JW talk SO much about Jesus!

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  miss k and her friend miss w arrived promptly today.

  our scheduled topic of discussion: jesus' claim to be "the way, the truth and the life..." john 14:6 since she was basing this topic choice on the fact that i had quoted that verse, i'm not sure why... she spent what seemed like a very long time, hopping through scriptures that all said that jesus was the truth, the way, or the life.

  ok, so we agreed... i kept waiting for her to get to a point, or sway from this principle.. of course, she summed up with scriptures that show how jesus submits to the father, and what does that mean we should do?

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  "You are in the Truth."

  Here's another thing JWs never understand. Jesus is the truth John 14:6. To be in "the truth" is to be in Jesus (and Jesus in you).

  Romans 8:9-11

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  9 You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. 10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

  The bible confers with around 100 references to being "in Christ" or Jesus but here's a good one to start with.

  Romans 8:1-3

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  8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set youfree in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.

  Ask a JW if they are "in Christ" and they likely won't have a clue what you are talking about!

  The "learned" JW will claim this is only for the 144, 000.

  However, according to Romans 8 they are in fact alive in their body but dead spiritually.

  Stephen
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  When we die...

  by Finallyfree12 in

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  do you beleive our spirit lives on in other dimensions or are we really just dead?

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  Chalam

  "Chalem - Good to see ya here - I'm going to read thru your recent posts to find the movie you're referring to.

  LV"

  Here you go LV :)

  http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/heavenisforreal/

  Stephen