How could Russell have gone home if the resurrection of the anointed didn't begin until 1918?
Maybe "GONE HOME" is old light and "GONE AWAY" is the new light ;)
Blessings,
Stephen
How could Russell have gone home if the resurrection of the anointed didn't begin until 1918?
Maybe "GONE HOME" is old light and "GONE AWAY" is the new light ;)
Blessings,
Stephen
so yesterday my mil did the token believing df'd person thing and told my wife that if she had not been df'd she would not have corrected her course of action.
it was a devistating blow to everything that i've been working on with my wife.
her mom said if she had not been df'd she would have spread lies about my wife's dad and would have still wanted to be with her ex-boyfriend.
brotherdan WT: 10
brotherdan: 0
I disagree. Here is the current score.
WT:Lost
BD:Saved
I agree with Ding, "watch and pray".
Let the Holy Spirit do the talking, He will give you the words as needed and beyond that, keep quite, keep praying and remain in love :)
Blessings,
Stephen
if i'm not mistaken, werent the committee of brothers who translated this bible: nathan knorr, albert scheoder, george gangas, fredrick franz.
wasnt fredrick franz the only scholarly person (or somewhat scholarly) person who was 'somewhat qualified' to translate any type of biblical greek, hebrew, etc?.
theMadJW Ah, that explains it; thus the common translation (main customer being church-people) translate it to fit your dogma!
The list clearly shows no version has the word "Ghost" as you have accused but all have the words "Spirit" as the Hebrew dictates. Any of these translations are easily far more accurate that the NWT.
"Active force" is a poor paraphrase at best and the only ones who subscribe to it are those who worship the god of the WT.
Blessings,
Stephen
hi jwners,.
3 no longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of god and of the lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him.ok, "the throne of god and of the lamb" is mentioned.
who is coming soon, the lamb or god?
First get the issue of who Jesus is settled, then move on to discussion of the Holy Spirit.
Understood. However, you need the Holy Spirit to reveal who Jesus is :)
26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.
26 "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
5 because our gospel came to you not simply with words, but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and with deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake.
Blessings,
Stephen
if i'm not mistaken, werent the committee of brothers who translated this bible: nathan knorr, albert scheoder, george gangas, fredrick franz.
wasnt fredrick franz the only scholarly person (or somewhat scholarly) person who was 'somewhat qualified' to translate any type of biblical greek, hebrew, etc?.
Neither is the word "Ghost", as in -snicker!- the 'Holy GHOST'!
Which translation are you reading? Another contender for the "most accurate"?
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By capturing the TRUE meaning of the Hebrew, as well as what the holy spirit REALLY is it is just more PROOF as to how accurate and honest it IS, Chalam.
So you agree, the NWT is not a translation i.e. capturing the meaning, not the exact words.
Or are you one who worships a Nameless Ghost-God?
No, I worship Jesus, My Lord and My God.
Blessings,
Stephen
Bangalore I think it is saying that Russell is still managing the work from heaven.
Pastor Russell is dead and his body in the grave. Is Russell managing his work from heaven consciously or unconsciously?
snowbird The WT teaches that the "non-anointed" dead person's spirit returns to God in the sense that the dead's person's "future prospect" for life rests with Jehovah God.
Indeed, JWs have quoted me this verse.
7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust" and the spirit to be with God. Where is His abode then?!
So what other verses to they use to 'support' their destiny for the spirits of the dead "non-anointed"?
Blessings,
Stephen
if i'm not mistaken, werent the committee of brothers who translated this bible: nathan knorr, albert scheoder, george gangas, fredrick franz.
wasnt fredrick franz the only scholarly person (or somewhat scholarly) person who was 'somewhat qualified' to translate any type of biblical greek, hebrew, etc?.
theMadJW Chalam, in Hebrew:
Holy= pure, clean, set aside
Spirit= breath, wind (invisible force. ALL force is ACTIVE)
So you admit the words "active" and "force" are not in the Hebrew and the WT is indeed paraphrasing, not translating.
Clearly, the NWT fails the WT claim of being the "most accurate" translation by the second verse!
Blessings,
Stephen
hi jwners,.
3 no longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of god and of the lamb will be in it, and his servants will worship him.ok, "the throne of god and of the lamb" is mentioned.
who is coming soon, the lamb or god?
Hi JWNers,
I posted a verse or two from this passage earlier and it reminded me about the biblical grammar in statements concerning the Father and Son.
7 "And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book."
Who is coming soon, the Lamb or God? Revelation 3:11-12, Revelation 22:20
8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, 9 but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
10 And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy."
12 "Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end."
Who is coming soon? The Alpha and the Omega? Which one, the Son or the Father? Revelation 1:8, Revelation 21:6
The First and the Last? Which one? Revelation 1:17, Revelation 2:8
Blessings,
Stephen
if i'm not mistaken, werent the committee of brothers who translated this bible: nathan knorr, albert scheoder, george gangas, fredrick franz.
wasnt fredrick franz the only scholarly person (or somewhat scholarly) person who was 'somewhat qualified' to translate any type of biblical greek, hebrew, etc?.
Welcome TrueScript!
Maybe you can help with the answer?
Can you tell me where the NWT gets the words "active" and "force" from? I can't see either in the Hebrew? http://biblos.com/genesis/1-2.htm
Blessings,
Stephen
Many thanks.
So is Pastor Russell "conscious of nothing"?
Can't see any claims on that page regarding the resting place of the spirits of the "non-anointed".
Regards,
Stephen