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  Koran Qoutes; Eat blood emergency only / Don't be friend Christian or Jew!

  by Witness 007 in

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  surah 5;5 "that which die's of itself,and blood, and ....strangled...is forbidden....but who's willful leanings to wrong shall be forced by hunger to sin, to him, will god be indulgent, merciful.

  " {better then watchtower policy}.

  surah 5;50 "o believers, take not jews or christians as friends.

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  And in the same chapter, at 5:82, you find the ironic:

  [5.82] Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.

  Obviously, Christians and Jews of Muhammed's days are much worse than the Islamic extremists spawned by the religion today; obviously ;-)

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  Koran Qoutes; Eat blood emergency only / Don't be friend Christian or Jew!

  by Witness 007 in

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  surah 5;5 "that which die's of itself,and blood, and ....strangled...is forbidden....but who's willful leanings to wrong shall be forced by hunger to sin, to him, will god be indulgent, merciful.

  " {better then watchtower policy}.

  surah 5;50 "o believers, take not jews or christians as friends.

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  Gozz

  The correct citation is 5:51

  It's clear from the translation directly above.

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  I Come Bearing Gifts! Part 1 of 3

  by Shepherd Book in

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  i realize this is not my first post, but id like to introduce myself.

  my name is shepherd book.

  so i wrote to the watchtower society.. .

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  Good work, you brave man!

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  Governing Body on Higher Education Gerrit Lösch Talk

  by Magick in

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  "if you are currently going to college, why don't you currently meditate in prayer on the possibility of dropping out and doing something better?".

  "what decisions will you make?

  will you refuse or not?

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  I know one African country where talks like this are routinely ignored. JWs is competitive countries know the only way to get out of the cycle of poverty is by getting thoroughly educated, and it's not unusual to find university graduates in responsible positions in the congregations. Within the universities themselves, the rate of attrition of JWs is quite high; the talks are geared towards dissuading JWs from going ahead for second and third degrees.

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  It makes me sad to see Ray Franz looking this feeble...

  by deaconbluez in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yqj0-huvvw

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  Ray Franz is alright. 84, and on tours? That's wonderful.

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  Needed - Pedophilia Settlement info.......

  by oneairhead in

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  hey folks, can any of you provide me with links to legitimate news sources that have estimated the pedophilia payout amount.

  i think it was around $13-14 million.

  i have a jw friend who didn't know about it and wanted to provide him some reading home work.

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  Did you get the JW to read the court documents in respect of these settlements? Did the JW agree that some moeny was paid out of the WWW funds? If yes to both, that's not trivial; the amount will be a detail, though not an unimportant detail. It was important for the Watchtower that the exact amount aren't public; the victims ar ebound by law not to reveal the details.

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  Was Your Field Service Report Accurate?

  by minimus in

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  did you typically "fudge" your report??

  i did.

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  Gozz

  As a greenhorn, used to count time differently: I'd count only actual time spent talking to people, which meant lower numbers than everyone I went out with. Until the month I aux-ed with a pioneer brother who was generous with all the tricks. I'll start out with a tract to someone close to home; whatever happened between there and the meeting point didn't matter much, he said - though, truth be said, I kept it active: talked to people on the way - and same thing back on the way home. The hours climbed. Then I started to count time spent discussing (arguing) with people on the internet... Some months when I reported 25-3/4 hours (for 25 hours 45 mins), I'd be 'advised' to approximate it to 26; hmnn, that didn't sound very right. It was clear the numbers weren't meant to be accurate; and that did more than a bit to erode confidence in the system.

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  Secret book--PDF--(Family Care and Medical Management for JW's!)

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  1992 family care and medical management for jehovah's witnesses.

  (approx.

  85mb) this publication is now unavailable from the watchtower, with no plans for republication.

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  Link has expired. Could anyone to let the rest of us see this book?

  Thanks!

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  God is Not Great

  by bluesapphire in

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  has anyone read this book?

  while the author's writing style is pedantic and he seems to be too full of himself, he makes some very interesting points about religion.

  i'm about half way through.

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  Hitchens is full of himself; he's also one of the finest minds writing in the English language.

  See: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/136995/2441808/post.ashx#2441808

  And also: http://www.slate.com/default.aspx?id=3944&qt=christopher+hitchens

  Cheers.

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  So I went to the Memorial last night...........

  by Warlock in

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  so i went last night and it really wasn't that bad.

  in fact, i felt comfortable.

  i got the usual greetings, hugs, and one of the elders almost came to tears when he saw me.. there were also the "same-old" "same-olds" who look right through you and never say a word to you.

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  Warlock:

  I also like the way the speaker used James 2:24-26. He skipped v.25. Maybe because the sum total of Rahab's works amounted to one event, not 20 years of Field Service. Hmmmmmm.

  Interesting point.

  James' theme was about justification by works; not that Tahab was justified by faith and works, but by works (alone), specifically by sending them by another way. A rather sharp contrast to Hebrews 11:31, who connected Rahab's reception of the spies with a work of faith: faith was receiving the spies, works was sending them out another way relative to the pursuers, her works obvious by the "lost" opportunities to either betray the spies or send pursuers after them or both. Of course, JWs hate to consider this, if they ever notice the significance of the omission of verse 25 at all.