Good for them! I hope the governments recognize them as a cult instead of a religion. Any links?
Posts by cognac
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20Barbara Anderson just returned from Europe where she vigorously criticized WTs dangerously harmful policies.
by koolaid-man informer bethelites and wt critics, barbara and joe anderson, just returned from a month in europe where barbara spoke at five conferences in three countries.
she was also interviewed by the italian press and met with a number of italian religious officials.
in france, she met with french government officials and representatives of anti-cult organizations.
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
Thanks otwo!
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
do you think the pedophile problem would influence your husband to finally leave the cult
He s/w Mr.Flipper a year and a half ago about that. I don't think he really understands how big of a problem it is and would probably say that he watches her closely anyways. I mean, me personally, I don't ever allow her around anybody but family without me right there and he knows that... Any sites with any statistics regarding the issue that I can point out to him?
Have you mentioned Ray Franz to him?
Yeah, I left the book out by mistake over a year ago and he threw it out...
Isn't it interesting how we are very concerened with individuals rather than numbers? People in need log on here and everyone is on it with advice.
Yup, shows you where real love is!
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
Thanks everyone for your encouragement! Yes, Mr. Flipper, it does take time and a whole heck of a lot of patience!
PS. Sorry Oomps...
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Hypothetically, If Someone Created a Fake Congregation to Trick Another...
by OnTheWayOut inlet's just stay hypothetical.
if someone wanted to create a fake congregation in 7-miles-from-nowhere, north dakota (7-m-f-n, n.d. congregation) in order to trick the elders at another congregation, what could they get away with?.
just assume that they use a p.o.
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cognac
Ok, so, how bout we talk about how everyone thinks they can make this work instead of debating... I'm interested in knowing...
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
If the WTS headquarters treats a lifelong Bethel brother like this, don't be surprised if the CO doesn't do anything, either.
That's what I'm counting on. It will piss hubby off and he will leave the cult and take his Dad with him.
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
lol at farkel...
Drw- I guess it's been a combination of things. Doubts he already had, me, the internet, elders not promoting him to MS even though they keep hinting at it, his dad not being reinstated cause of his mental issues, etc. Plus, he came on this forum and spoke with Mr. Flipper on the phone before.
I must say that's it's been a very long road threading very carefully...
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
Thanks insearchof!
Jesus said: "By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves." (John 13:35)
Farkel - I brought that scripture up and said, "if you google JWs, shouldn't there be a ton of websites stating how loving they are?" He said, "Yeah, it's the whole d'fing thing that ruining that. They really should let people talk to family members". His father is d'fed and so it really is personal with him. However, his dad is physophrenic so he's allowed to talk to his dad. He doesn't think his dad should be d'fed because he can never show his repentance because of his mental condition. He also doesn't think he should have been baptised or d'fed because of it... He said he's going to talk to the CO next time he comes around. He's not very happy about it... There's a lot to it, maybe I'll start a new thread...
Like Mary brought up, what are his thoughts on the "Bible" Study right now on blood?
He's never agreed with the whole fractions thing. He said that's raised a lot of red flags with him and for the life of him he said he just doesn't get it and it doesn't make any sense.
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
I actually had a similar experience with my JW sister this morning about the blood doctrine. Since the ban on transfusions is hitting home with them now, they're really feeling the heat and are wiling to accept it if it means saving my b-i-l's life. Still, it's hard on them as they've been taught their whole life that Jehovah will murder you for taking a transfusion. I called Crooklyn yesterday (yes I blocked my number) and asked to speak to someone about the blood doctrine. I had my project sitting in front of me and I asked the brother several questions, pointed out their flawed reasoning (ie. if the ban on blood was for everyone on earth, why were the Israelites allowed to sell unbled meat to foreigners? How is 'pouring out the blood of a dead animal to make atonement for the life that was just taken even remotely similar to taking blood from a live human to save another humans' life, etc.) The dipshit had absolutely no rebuttal for me and simply urged me to "wait on Jehovah" and that if anything needs to be changed, He'll do so through the "faithful and discreet slave".
My sister was actually quite glad that I told her as she's realizing more and more that the Slobbering Body members are a bunch of scum-sucking vampires who are literally sucking the life out their followers.
That' great! I hope bil gets better and they get outta that cult.
I actually dared hubby at the mtg last night to raise his hand and say, "So, clearly, the symbol of life is much more important then life itself." He wouldn't do it...
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Blinders Are Really Starting to Come Off Hubby!!!
by cognac init actually all started a bit stronger when mj died.
he loves his music and curiousity got the better of him and he started to google everything about him and jws.
he was also watching a lot of youtube videos.
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cognac
lol, Parrot. There's no way I'm gonna refute him!
This is great news. It really sounds like he might be progressively thinking for himself and seeing the destructive nature of the cult.
It is so wonderful to hear of a Dad expressing that type of unconditional love for his child. We could use more of that.
Thanks leaving!
good idea Mary. Can you send me it again if I pm you my email? Somehow I must've lost it.