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  My Boyfriend's not a Witness...

  by Hikaru in

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  alright, with my last post it should be obvious i'm in conflict...if it's not, then yeah.. my boyfriend is not a witness.

  he understands that witnesses can't marry or date non witnesses.

  but i guess could say we've been stalling...looking for a solution a gray area to that black and white situation...but with time getting as it is...stalling doesn't work anymore.

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  Hik - Ren got the scripture I was trying to think of. Also, Acts 16:31 says that if you believe your whole household will be saved.

  Clearly, though Hik, you have a lot of very real, strong feelings. Why don't you go over why you feel the way you do and maybe you can sort through some of it. It might even help start forming a love for God.

  For example, some might be scared of the big A because JWs are the only ones who do the preaching work on a huge, global scale. Therefore, what they say about the big A has to be correct, right??? NOPE!

  So, if you put that in a new topic, you can get some help in answering your questions and hopefully live more of a peaceful life. We are here to listen and help but you got to be able to talk it out to get that help...
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  I'm back... Updates about hubby...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  turns out, he really doesn't seem to like anything spiritual.

  he hasn't been to a meeting in weeks.

  we went out with a bunch of jws the other night and at the end he told me he was pissed they brought spiritual things up.

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  Thanks so much everyone! I hope your right about him being on his way out. I really think he's just there because of friends... I was very surprised that he didn't like the spiritual talk myself...

  It was funny, because when it was brought up he tried asking them a question he believes the society has the wrong info on, and they just said, "Tell us when you find the answer". He probably didn't want to say that he did find the answer and he thinks the society is wrong, lol.

  I'm thinking he's realized that the spiritual talk can only go one way. You can't disagree with anything. Makes for very obnoxious conversations...
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  My Boyfriend's not a Witness...

  by Hikaru in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  alright, with my last post it should be obvious i'm in conflict...if it's not, then yeah.. my boyfriend is not a witness.

  he understands that witnesses can't marry or date non witnesses.

  but i guess could say we've been stalling...looking for a solution a gray area to that black and white situation...but with time getting as it is...stalling doesn't work anymore.

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  Hey hik - I sent you a PM. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's a scripture that talks about if one mate believes and the other doesn't. The one that doesn't will be saved anyways because the mate believes. I can try and find it if you want...
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  I'm back... Updates about hubby...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  turns out, he really doesn't seem to like anything spiritual.

  he hasn't been to a meeting in weeks.

  we went out with a bunch of jws the other night and at the end he told me he was pissed they brought spiritual things up.

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  cognac

  Turns out, he really doesn't seem to like anything spiritual. He hasn't been to a meeting in weeks. We went out with a bunch of JWs the other night and at the end he told me he was pissed they brought spiritual things up. He said he just wanted a beer and doesn't like it always shoved down his throat...

  He believes spirituality is simply the way we live - that's it... Of course, he can't bring himself to come here... He goes to some meetings simply because he has friends there.

  He just wants to live an easy life. Nothing dramatic.

  I on the other hand, am dramatic. I want to bring the BORG down, lol... But, I will do so calmly, lol... Don't want to stir the hubby up!
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  New online archive with older Watchtower writings

  by processor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lots of older watchtower and watchtower-related publications can be found here now:.

  http://wtarchive.kilu.de.

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  Hey Processor - I got the 53, 54 Watchtowers for the whole year if you want to add them to the archive. They are not scanned though. I can either try to have them scanned or send them to you if you want to add them...

  I didn't think I saw them - but it's still early for me, I might have missed it...
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  Good-bye Everyone

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of you have been like family to me.

  yet, it's time that i must say good-bye.

  my husband and i have chosen to study the scriptures together on two conditions:.

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  cognac

  Some of you have been like family to me. Yet, it's time that I must say good-bye. I have to say good-bye. My husband and I have chosen to study the scriptures together on two conditions:

  1. No religion is involved on our studies.

  2. I don't come to this website.

  You all have helped me through so many things. You have helped me in my spirituality, in finding out the person I am, in helping me develop a thicker skin (lol), and in letting me work through all that I needed to on my own time table.

  I cannot do what it is that I need to do for both me and my husband if I am also here.
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  Emotional blackmail in this cult sadly works

  by troubled mind in

  1. jw
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  last night my husband and i were out having ice cream @ culvers when we noticed a group of jws coming in after their meeting .. it seemed a celebration for one family.

  we saw the father of the family was all dressed up and associating with everyone .

  he had da'd himself over 20 yrs ago and has been blacklisted from family and friends this whole time .i guessed last night was his reinstatement to the cult .

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  Sad... That's why so many of us are still in...
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  JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

  ) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

  i don't want to harp on each point.

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  Hey OTWO, has anyone else posted? I can't tell....

  Yes, me!!!
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  JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

  ) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

  i don't want to harp on each point.

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  Web Sites of "Jehovah’s Witnesses": Consider, for example, some Internet sites set up by individuals who claim to be Jehovah’s Witnesses. They invite you to visit their sites to read experiences posted by others who claim to be Witnesses. You are encouraged to share your thoughts and views about the Society’s literature. Some give recommendations about presentations that could be used in the field ministry. These sites offer chat rooms for individuals to connect to, allowing live communication with others, similar to talking on the telephone. They often point you to other sites where you can have on-line association with Jehovah’s Witnesses around the world. But can you tell for certain that these contacts have not been planted by apostates?

  When I was a JW this didn't sit right with me. And I'm sure doesn't sit right with a lot of other JWs. And I will tell you why. The only way for the society to know that you shouldn't visit these sites because they are bad is for them to have visited themselves. Even if somebody wrote in about it, how would they know that they are even telling the truth unless they looked themselves

  "Well", I thought to myself, "They can visit them because clearly they are stronger then me because they are the FDS." However, I knew that it wasn't the FDS that was writing the material. It was the "other sheep". The FDS, according to my Dad, approves the written material. So, now, according to my knowledge, the "other sheep" were visiting these sites. Didn't make any sense to me.

  Unless, I was just not understanding the procedures correctly...
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  JW Defenders- Is WTS Right to Insist You Stay Away From these Websites?

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read these threads and there are a few that bend over backwards to say why wts is correct on this issue or that issue.. they act like typical jw's that refuse to acknowledge points that may show that wts is not following the scriptures or that wts goes beyond the scriptures in a way that is not supported by others.. the point could be the blood issue or shunning or whether 1799 or 1914 was the start (or finish?

  ) of the last days or whether there is a faithful and discreet slave class or not.

  i don't want to harp on each point.

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  Thanks OTWO...

  When I recall what I read regarding the internet, it seemed so right from a certain point of view.

  What do you mean?

  EVERYONE has this one thought that they bury who is still in as a JW: "What are they so afraid of us seeing on the internet?"

  That's a very true point!

  The above passage I quoted from the KM is intellectually dishonest, and designed to control people from not examining the JW faith.

  I wanted your hubby to see that too....

  I'm gonna go back and read that... Be right back!