Jwoods - Even the apostle Paul said not to judge the heart and to only judge the act. When a person has repented from the wrong act he should be let right back into the cong. JWs wait to let the person back in when they feel the persons heart has changed. They have no right to do that. Also, even Paul said to not be to harsh in what he says. The BORG fails to take that into account...
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109What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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jwoods - The massive amount of info the BORG ignores from the bible is shocking. They take what Paul said and they fail to weigh in the love and type of forgiveness Jesus showed...
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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Many times Paul states, "the lord says..." and other times he says " I and not the Lord say.."
I noticed that. I wonder about cases where he doesn't actually say specific information is from him or God. I would assume if he didn't specifically say it was from him, then it would be from God.
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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cognac
Yes, Isaac, it is! Thank-you! I'm gonna read that. It's so easy to look over things and just not put it together sometimes. Thanks for the help!
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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cognac
Oh, sorry... I got angel eyes and aguest mixed up. Aguest - you around???
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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cognac
Oh, please don't run Angel Eyes of this thread! He really helped me in another thread and I really want to hear his viewpoint...
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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cognac
Oh really Isaac!!! Thanks for correcting my view, I'll reread the information tonight. ae - I feel like he is a cause of a lot of divisions not only in the cong of his day, but now down to our day. However, it doesn't seem like he was ever corrected and was speaking in behalf of God. Jesus seemed just so much more loving and forgiving. Please show me your opinion of how you feel I could be viewing him incorrectly. I'm open to learning!
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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cognac
If he was in fact given his own opinion, it wouldn't be as bad. However, when he spoke of women, his judgemental attitude towards gays, fornicators, etc that's when it irritates me. When he gives those opinions, it is never said that those are his own opinions in those instances and not Gods. So, in the case where he represents God I have to wonder why those things were allowed in an "inspired" bible.
Yes, some of his views are rather "pharisical" and at times his jewish unbring seems to get the better of him, but he was only human
But, if the bible is inspired of God then unless otherwise stated, wouldn't we have to take that his words as the word of God?
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What Are Your Thoughts On The Apostle Paul?
by cognac ini find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes.
evidently, peter did also.
anyways, i find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and i was shocked how he rebuked with peter.
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I find him very confusing and difficult to figure out sometimes. Evidently, Peter did also. Anyways, I find him a bit harsh and unloving in the way he deals with the congregations and I was shocked how he rebuked with Peter. I felt like he promoted divisions and that in he said things like, "do not even eat with" fornicators that are brothers and such. He doesn't seem to have followed Jesus way of doing things as Jesus eat with sinners and tax collectors. I just found Jesus to be so much more loving then the way Paul was.
He also seemed egotistical (sp?) to me in that he always seemed to give credit to himself and how he showed off about rebuking Peter publicly. For him to say for women to ask questions at home I find rude. The way he treated women I didn't like in general.
He also went to Jerusalem even after God and spirit annointed men told him not to. Not sure if he ever got rebuked for that.
Anyways, in Thess. in talks about God sending somebody to confuse people because they didn't first accept Jesus sacrifice or something like that. I have to wonder if he was speaking about Paul when he said that.
Idk, what are your thoughts?
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Somebody wants me to study the bible with her.
by cognac innot sure i really feel qualified to teach her anything about it.
i'll tell her that i can discuss my viewpoint, but, i may get things wrong.
it's really weird that somebody wants me to study with them.
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No, she doesn't want me to study JW stuff with her, lol. Thanks for the link chickpea!