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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
He does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding.
WOW!!!
That's really gross. I just thought you couldn't teach things contrary to what they said... I didn't realize you couldn't even "harbor private ideas"...
Who the hell do they think they are trying to even control your thoughts??? If that's the case, then I'd say about 1/2 of JWs are apostates and don't even know it...
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
There is no distinction between "Believing" and "Teaching" when it comes to apostasy. Even if there were, it wouldn't matter since the person in the situation you describe had actually acted on their belief.
Wow, thought I was onto a loophole for a second there but they really covered there bases...
AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY WAY OUT!!! YOU ARE STUCK HERE FOREVER!!!
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
There is no distinction between "Believing" and "Teaching" when it comes to apostasy. Even if there were, it wouldn't matter since the person in the situation you describe had actually acted on their belief.
Wow, thought I was onto a loophole for a second there but they really covered there bases...
AND THERE WILL NEVER BE ANY WAY OUT!!! YOU ARE STUCK HERE FOREVER!!!
well, you know how the whole thing came out about only using the "society's literature" came out a few months ago?
well, a few days later i went up to the po to basically tell on myself that i used strongs concordance and exactly which website i go to for a lot of my research.
he said that was fine and that the society was just avoiding people spending hours on non wt literature just either wasting there time or trying to prove the society wrong.... ok, so fast forward to this past weekend, i was over his house with my husband for dinner.
thanks Seek!!! I'm downloading it right now!!!
well, you know how the whole thing came out about only using the "society's literature" came out a few months ago?
well, a few days later i went up to the po to basically tell on myself that i used strongs concordance and exactly which website i go to for a lot of my research.
he said that was fine and that the society was just avoiding people spending hours on non wt literature just either wasting there time or trying to prove the society wrong.... ok, so fast forward to this past weekend, i was over his house with my husband for dinner.
It seems that a lot of congregations have that "Jezebel influence" of elders' wives telling their husbands how to do things.
I really think she has or at least used to have a bit of an influence on him. I heard before he used to be really strict, but now he seems to be a very reasonable person... I wonder if he is trapped in his position and because of his wife can't fade or all hell will break loose...
I mean, he has no problem stating if another elder is "just giving his opinion" and or sticking the worlds biggest hard-a** on me when I wanted to pioneer. (I wonder if he did that because he wanted to be discouraged from it... which almost worked...)
And I noticed that he drinks a lot everytime I'm around him in a social setting and he doesn't seem to be the least bit buzzed... High tolerance??? Oh, and another time I was lit in front of him and he didn't say a word about it... lol...
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
Within the JW community? YES! unless you MOVE TO BULGARIA!
So you wouldn't get d'f in Bulgaria based on the blood issue or apostasy?
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
If it is open disagreement, then a real judicial proceeding on charges of apostasy would be inevitable.
What if you say that you don't teach anything so your not an apostate? You just believe something different in your heart.
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
bttt
we had a little family roadtrip last weekend, and my wife brought coc to read in the car!
she read quite a bit of it... .
what was great is she really sees it as not the truth.
Wow, that is so awesome!!!
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......or have they changed that rule...and made it a "conscience matter"??
thanks for your help..... lavendar .
What if they state that they have accepted a blood transfusion, that are not sorry for it but they do not want to be disassociated? Then what???You can be disfellowshipped against your will
You cannot be disassociated against your will
Would you then be DA'd against your will?
