yeah Oompa, coming on strong isn't usually a good idea in these situations... However, that NEVER gives anybody a right to physically hurt you...
You read any of Stephen Hassan's books?
well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.
i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.
http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.
yeah Oompa, coming on strong isn't usually a good idea in these situations... However, that NEVER gives anybody a right to physically hurt you...
You read any of Stephen Hassan's books?
(and of course for christianity as a whole).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7651105.stm.
the problem is ... the oldest bible shows that it's been changed significantly so all the claims about it being gods word are clearly bogus.
I pressed enter to soon...
I'd love to see if they translated Acts 15:29 as "blood" or "murder"...
(and of course for christianity as a whole).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7651105.stm.
the problem is ... the oldest bible shows that it's been changed significantly so all the claims about it being gods word are clearly bogus.
When will it be online in English so we can look scriptures up? Also, what will the link be to it?
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hey everyone, i don't think the maker of the video is on the board so i figured i'd post this video here.
this one absolutely floored me, it was put together so concisely; it's just incredibly difficult to deny the theocratic warfare method when viewing this video... without further ado, the video:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yssa2dj_u.
I've never heard of a custody packet... Do we have any links to them?
well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.
i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.
http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.
after argument 2245 she screamed and with a huge swing slapped the hell out of me twice.......
I'm sorry Oomps... That's terrible...
well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.
i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.
http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.
Thank-you so much everyone for your replys!!! I will go over everything a lot more in depth tomorrow. Some things came up today unexpectedly so I haven't been able to research the information you have given me yet. But, thank you so much for it! I will let everyone know what I think of it tomorrow.
Lol Oompa... Have you ever tried reasoning with her that even the society encourages asking questions - so therefore, both of you shoud me able to talk in a loving way over your issues with the JWs... When hubby fought with me on that - I just said it distanced me further from the JWs because it sends out a lot of red flags to me and I can't get to the root of my issues. Also, if he argues with me over issues instead of discussing them with me I tell him that my questions don't go away and it just distances me further. He's a lot more willing to talk with me about things when I reason like that with him...
well, after reading mr. flippers thread yesturday about stephen hassan, i decided i would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen.
i knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up.
http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html.
Well, after reading Mr. Flippers thread yesturday about Stephen Hassan, I decided I would like to talk to hubby about cults in general to see what would happen. I knew we couldn't go to this site because his walls would go up. So, we went to this one:
http://www.geocities.com/rick_g22/cults/cults1b.html
We read the page together and talked about it. He said that he has always had a problem with the blood fractions thing and doesn't think that holy spirit is what appoints the elders and MS's (otherwise, he would have been appointed by now and my father wouldn't have been PO for all those years while abusing us at the same time...) He also doesn't believe that only JWs will make it into the new system. I was a little shocked by all this he said...
He also believes that my family is brainwashed. (I think that's because he doesn't pay attention at the meetings, doesn't study and doesn't go out in service - he doesn't realize that most of the JWs have the same viewpoints as my family...)
Anyways, any suggestions on other neutral sites we can go to about cults or anything like that???
(BTW, thanks Mr. Flipper for that post! Very helpful!!!)
well, i talk about my abuse so much i haven't found the need to post it.
i guess i will post it now so i can write it once and not have to keep writing it over and over again.
well, my eariliest memory is of being punished.
This is a really sad story...
If you still read here Jesika, I'm sorry...
as ive made it known on this board, my current status with the watchtower bible and tract society is that of inactive.
this is a loophole i have utilized, to keep an open channel of communication with family members in the organization.. i want to clarify with everyone: i do not hold any doctrinal ideas, theology, ideology, opinions expressed in any form by the wtbts.
therefore, to simply put, i do not believe in the wtbts in any way, shape, or form.
ummmm, anyways, good thread, huh?
as ive made it known on this board, my current status with the watchtower bible and tract society is that of inactive.
this is a loophole i have utilized, to keep an open channel of communication with family members in the organization.. i want to clarify with everyone: i do not hold any doctrinal ideas, theology, ideology, opinions expressed in any form by the wtbts.
therefore, to simply put, i do not believe in the wtbts in any way, shape, or form.
ok, this is just really priceless!!!