I am so sorry FHN
Velvet
my jw brother in law is one the phone with me right now.
when it rains it pours when it comes to sorrow.
I am so sorry FHN
Velvet
and it's hard... to see how horrible my family was.
it's just hard.
i'm just crying... .
((((((Cognac))))))
I feel for you. My parents were the only ones that got the "truth" when I was 3, none of my other relatives became JW's. They were not shunned but we rarely visited them and never did all the things that families do together. My Grandparents were not allowed to give me gifts or talk about Holidays with me. My parents kept me away from all the fun stuff and family stuff that others enjoyed. I really resented that and I was grown up by the time I could enjoy it and then everyone was either dead or moved away and I had lost touch. You have every right to be Angry and upset.
Velvet
many religions other than jws believe we are at the "end times".
some individuals believe the earth will really be destroyed either by means of god or man in this century.. what's your take?.
Things are not looking good for the Earth right now, something has to give and it may not be so good for us as it has been.
I DO NOT THINK that the JW's are right and that the system of things will be destroyed and that they will be the only survivors.
Velvet
hey all,.
just thought i'd check out all the hoopla with this site.since i can't phone home without my parents being on here and talking to me at the same time.. anyone elses parents huge apostates?
i keep telling my mom my dad she write a book on jw's,all he needs are some good typing skills and he'd be off.. i am wondering if anyone knows about any support groups for addicted computer users?
Welcome Super Apostate girl
You are right your MOM Hope4others is a definite JWD addict she joined here about the same time I did and she has 2500 more posts than I do. I am addicted to this site too, I love it. I just don't talk as much as your Mom. LOL
I am so happy you have joined us here
Velvet
back in the old days, i remember when the elders actually cared about the flock.
i was involved with helping older sisters, (octegenarians, widows) to take them to the grocery store and help them each week.. i remember helping when an older one would fall, and helping clean up the blood, and get there home in order from their return from the hospital.
just a lot of good works.. that stuff is out the window now.
I have been OUT for 25 years but my Mom was in and she was telling me how loving and helpful the "brothers" were. When I was in as a child my Dad was the Elder and he truely helped the Flock, arranged for someone to help the elderly and sick and pitched in to do actual physical work if someone needed it. So I really believed the stuff about helping one another and that the Witnesses were the truth.
I left the Borg at 18 and came back in at 28 thinking I had made a mistake leaving the loving JWs. What I saw shocked me. No one wanted to help at all. They were arrogant and disinterested. It might have just been that congregation but I was shocked to say the least. There was a lady from Jamica in my congregation, she was working as a live in housemaid for a family, the parents both were physicians. She had no car and no public transportation near her. A elder lived close to her and another elder lived on my street also. Neither would pick her up and take her to the meeting. They both had no kids and nice big late model cars. I had 3 little kids, one being a baby a unbelieving husband and a OLD beat up unreliable car. I was the one that picked her up and took her home. It was almost like the folks in that congregation were prejudice about her. She was the sweetest most humble person I have ever met. This was 1979/1980.
At the same time my Mom who stayed in till she died was having trouble at her congregation. My dad was now out of the truth, said there was favortism and hypocrisy. Her congregation she said was spiritually weak and no one helped her even though she was physically and mentally sick. No one called to encourage her or help her. She just blamed the congregation not the Society. She said there was something wrong in the congregation and it needed cleaning up before Jehovahs spirit would be there again.
I left the Borg and didn't worry about the whole thing for a long time. Then my Mom got sick in 2006 and was dying. I went to take care of her. Some days I needed help and I had to beg to get help from her only friends the JWs. They did Not want to help her. I had to hire someone to take up the slack for me, and my Mom would only have a JW to help her, No one worldly would do. So I had to pay $1500 a month to a "sister" to sit with my Mom 5 nights a week. For housecleaning my Mom had hired a sister and paid her. She needed work on the house but no one would do it unless they were paid. My husband ended up doing it even though my Mom defended the brothers and said they were having health problems etc. She couldn't see that no one wanted to help her unless they got Paid. I was totally shocked and realized then what a bunch of two faced hypocrites they were. My poor Mom thought they all loved her.
My 2 cents
Velvet
told hubby that i won't go out in service because i believe that the preaching work was already done in the 1st century.. he said "you don't want to tell people about jehovah?".
i said "no".
i also said that when we move i have no intentions of going back to the kh.
Good for you Cognac
I wish you happiness and peaceful enjoyment in your life.
Velvet
thinking about just giving it up....i always revert back to a nightly habit.....and the occasasinal big escape into the bottle.
but of course you can't live there, and it fixes nothing.. because i think i do have a problem, i went to some aa meetings and found them to be too much like wt.
if alcholism is a true disease, then why is it the only one that needs god (or a higher power to cure (or cope with).
Oompa I totally understand how difficult it is to find a way to not use alcohol in excess.
Crumpet thanks for sharing with us. Its not easy to admit you have a problem or have had one.
I would never have admitted I drank to much until I came on this group and found out I am not alone. that in itself is helping me to be more moderate with drinking and to understand some of the reasons why I drink. I always said it was because I love the taste of it. I only drink wine. I will have a Margarita once in awhile but only 2, after that it is too filling. I hate the taste of hard liquor such as rye, scotch, brandy, gin, bourbon etc. I wlll drink vodka in a mixed drink but only one, after that it makes me feel funny. If it wasn't for wine I wouldn't drink. So why did I get in the habit of drinking so much for years?? I have tried to figure it out and came to the conclusion it was Guilt and lifestyle.
I only drank at night after 7 PM so thought that was ok or socially. I started drinking at first because I hated my life and being a JW and was stuck in a boring life with 4 kids under 6. I left the religion and then I felt really guilty and continued to drink. then I got involved in the entertainment business, it led to a decadent lifestyle and I couldn't handle it. I drank socially and became a party person. Then my life was a roller coaster of events, divorce, new husband, death of husband after 13 years. Starting all over again. Parents died. Children disowning me, new husband again. then my health failed, not because of drinking. 2 years ago all my partying and travelling and lucrative business and fun stuff stopped because I lost my mobility and developed chronic severe back pain and MS. What a shock. Then I drank to ease the pain of depression and actual severe back pain.
I am not drinking now and its working but I am struggling still with the urge to drink because of pain. I have been without a drink for 4 weeks.
So Oompa you are not alone but its not healthy and so thats a good reason to stop. It won't take our pain away just make it worse in the long run. I now its easier Said than Done
Hugs to you Oompa and Crumpet
Velvet
do you look like your jwd profile pic?.
just curious.. that stupid pic of me in a columbia rain jacket is real.
it's 2 yrs.
I have nothing to hide, mine is recent and ME.
Velvet
for those of you who followed my weight watchers thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/157445/1.ashx) ... i am so excited to announce that this week i hit the 10 kg mark (22lbs) .
this is going so well and i am feeling very proud of myself, and also looking a lot better.. .
Princess, go girl go, you are doing great.
I had guests last week and it was a challenge I wasn't watching my diet last week, to much stress and out of routine. I am back on track since yesterday. I am finding I am not losing weight fast at all this time. I get little exercise because of back pain and lack of mobility. Also My metabolism is slower now, being older. Its discouraging only losing 1 lb a week. I am going to do it though.
Hugs from Velvet
i had a typing class in high school and learned to type with both hands it has stayed with me to this day...do you hunt and peck with 2 fingers or whole handed...
I took typing in school and type really fast with both hands and don't have to look at the keys. I can watch tv or talk to someone while typing. It sure is handy now that communication is mostly email and internet.
I have to admit I haven't got much patience for hunt and peck typers who only do one liners in email because they can't type well.
My husband is a hunt and peck typer, he takes hours to type a simple email if its a few paragraphs. That I have patience for as he is really trying, I offered to teach him to type but he refuses LOL
Velvet