Posts by BeelzeDub

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Bill Bowen stikes again!!!! UK responce to Bill

by Jesika in

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he just emailed this to me.

enjoy-----.

watchtower responds, at the link below you will see the pictures of my visit to wt in .

BeelzeDub

We strongly believe victims need and deserve sympathy along with loving personal support and are already committed to doing what we can to render such assistance.

And how and what type of personal support do they provide? Is there training provided to elders on how to provide support of sexual abuse?

How about someone test the system. If there is anyone here who is still active or even semi-active who has experienced abuse even if it was a long time ago, maybe they could go to the local elders and ask for some personal comfort and support and see what happens.

Read your bible more

Pray more

Get to all the meetings

Get out in service more

Stay busy and you wont have time to think about how you were raped is the personal comfort that you will probably get. Not very comforting in my opinion.

It would be interesting to see if anything changes when a vicim does come forward in the future. Will they stop trying to cover up? Will the victim continue to be silenced?

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email: naive JW sister, YOUR SUGGESTIONS?

by Quotes in

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i just received another email from this young sister that is so confused she thinks my website/email is the *real* watchtower.

for the record, here is the his correspondence so far: .

first letter, received august 11, 2001 12:09 hi, my name is [name removed] &im seventeen years old and im from waco,texas.

BeelzeDub

wassasister: You are correct, however the request from quotes was:

I would appreciate your serious and not-so-serious suggestions for reply!

Mine was meant to be not-so--serious.

Edited by - beelzeDub on 19 September 2002 13:28:56

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vulture population rising

by og in

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this is true!

i heard it myself from a friend!

scientists from all over the world are reporting unprecedented increases in vulture population - armageddon must be near!!!!!!!

BeelzeDub

Maybe since the WTS is into the production of full length videos they could get the rights to remake Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" to be added to all the Dub's theocratic video collection.

They could get a lot more graffic than the origianal film that was last released in 1962. And they would be able to get around a "R" rating since it is sactioned by holy spirit.

Just think of the excitement of all the Dubs getting to watch the birds pluck out the eyes of all those people and won't have to feel guilty for sneaking to a R rated movie.

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email: naive JW sister, YOUR SUGGESTIONS?

by Quotes in

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i just received another email from this young sister that is so confused she thinks my website/email is the *real* watchtower.

for the record, here is the his correspondence so far: .

first letter, received august 11, 2001 12:09 hi, my name is [name removed] &im seventeen years old and im from waco,texas.

BeelzeDub

What are the requirments that i would have to have to be able to get to come to bethel?

Dear [NAME INSERTED]

Thank you for your recent visit to bethel. We are always happy to see our young 18 year old sisters when they come for a visit. Thank you also for your interest in serving Jehovah in the full time work.

One of the primary requirements that we encourage all future bethelites to prepare them to come to bethel, is that they read "In Search of Christain Freedom" by Ray Franz. You probably remember him as one of the governing body members.

Since you recently visted us you probably already know that we are downsizing at bethel. With Jehovah's blessing we have implemented new simplification procedures to distribute the truth to more people world wide. Jehovah has directed his spirit has directed his spirit directed organization to use Barnes and Nobal to help get the new light out world wide.

You can order your personal copy of this book here:

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?TTL=in+search+of+christain+freedom&userid=15G3HT0AH7&sourceid=00016837955778666308&bfdate=09%2D19%2D2002+11%3A44%3A54

Thank you again for your interest in serving Jehovah at bethel. Please give our warm regards to the brothers and sisters in the cult capital of the USA.

Your Brothers in christain cult service.

Edited by - beelzeDub on 19 September 2002 11:59:7

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vulture population rising

by og in

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this is true!

i heard it myself from a friend!

scientists from all over the world are reporting unprecedented increases in vulture population - armageddon must be near!!!!!!!

BeelzeDub

Since the vultures will be sent by god to do his cleanup work, there could possibly be new light(tm) that will require the bothers and sisters to eat the vultues. Spiritual food at the proper time.(tm) I hope for their sake they do taste like chicken.

Of course it would be improper to speculate on such matters(tm) We will just have to wait on Jehovah(tm) to see. However the WTS does not go beyond what is written(tm) so all that can be confirmed for sure is that anyone who does not join the WTS ~~cult~~ spritual paradise(tm) will have their flesh and eyes picked apart as their dead rotting corps' lays on the ground.

PRAISE JEHOVAH!(tm)

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vulture population rising

by og in

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friends

this is true!

i heard it myself from a friend!

scientists from all over the world are reporting unprecedented increases in vulture population - armageddon must be near!!!!!!!

BeelzeDub

Some good points made and I must admit it made me laugh.

I needed a good laugh to start my day.

Thanks, BD

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Press Release-YOU CAN HELP!

by silentlambs in

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the press conference will be on tuesday morning at 10:30 am with a group of about 6-10 persons from the new york area attending at the front door of 25 building.

we ask you deliver an adapted version of the press release below as a representative of silentlambs to your local media and i will provide you with a prepared text to read at the press conference.

at the end you deliver a stuffed lamb/lambs to the local kingdom hall.

BeelzeDub

Silentlambs is formally requesting the church to establish a tribunal to prosecute the governing body for their crimes against children.

The average JW is a brain dead follower of the GB, looking to them as equal to Christ. Don't mean to rain on your parade but I think we will see pigs fly before this will happen.

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The High Price of Watchtower Pretension

by metatron in

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i think we have entered an era where the future of the watchtower is threatened by the.

cost of its own pretensions.

declaring that everyone else is going to die at armageddon.

BeelzeDub

I can see the reduction of printing of the WT & Awake mags in the future. My subscription ran out 3 months ago and no dub has come by. I guess they are waiting for me to come back to the meeting to pick up my mags. I must have quite a stack there by now. LOL

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Family members of molested

by RubyTuesday in

who here has had a family member molested by a jw?.

my neice was molested by her jw step father.the elders went to court in his behalf.the congergation banned together and sent an avalanche of letters to the court, stateing that he was a good clean christian.the judge believed them over my 11 year old neice.he was sent back to live with her.. this was at an english speaking congergation in salinas california.if anyone knows an elder named deitrick(not sure of the spelling)beware!!

!he will protect and cover for pedophiles.

BeelzeDub

My sister was molested at age 14 by a brother in our congregation. She is still an active JW and I did not know this about her until the Dateline program aired and we talked about it.

My parents were told not to say anything to anyone else about it. They were told not to report it to the police.

The same brother who molested my sister did so to other young girls in the congregation over many years. He has been disfellowshiped multiple times yet I never knew exactly why.

Several families moved away from the congregation after he did this to their daughters.

Last I knew he was serving as a MS in the same congregation when this happened 30 years ago.

BD

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Next year's intl conventions - for PR?

by Aaac in

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next year, jw's have international conventions at least in switzerland, spain, s africa, japan and australia.

they usually have their big conventions in countries where they desperately need some positive pr, so what is going on in these countries?.

link:.

BeelzeDub

Sounds like great vacation spots for the members of the Governing Body to travel to.

Wonder why they never have them in Bosnia, Malawahi, (sp?) Etheopia, India, Pakistan, Afgahnistan. Could it be that these poor countries just don't offer the comforts that the members of the GB expect when they travel to international conventions.

I guess when Jehovah wipes out all the poor people from these countries at armageddon it will be their own fault for not taking care of "the least of Jesus brothers" in the fashion they expect.

BB