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  20,000 Die While "GOD" Watches as he sips Iced Tea

  by JT in

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  today i had an interesting conversation, not with a christian believer but a muslim believer, .

  he was trying to recruit me into the faith--so i thought i would pose the question to him about why his god watches as 20,000 believers (muslims) women, children, etc lost thier lives-.

  his explanation i thought was straight out of a christian handbook on.

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  Jesus did not say that before his return his Father would prevent earthquakes, floods etc.

  Just as Ecclesiastes 9:11,12 states so it continues today:

  "Again I saw that under the sun the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, nor bread to the wise, not riches to the intelligent, nor favor to the skillful; but time and chance happen to them all. For no one can anticipate the time of disaster. Like fish taken in a cruel net, and like birds caught in a snare, so mortals are snared at a time of calamity, when it suddenly falls upon them."

  We are each subject to the possibility of sudden death everyday of our lives.

  Sabrina
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  Is There ANY JW Belief That You Still Believe In???

  by minimus in

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  do any here still believe in paradise earth, blood prohibitions, etc.??

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  Like the Witnesses I don't believe in the Trinity, hellfire and the immortality of the soul.

  Unlike the Witnesses I don't believe in the word for word inerrancy of the Bible nor in the authority of a Governing Body or Church over my conscience.

  Sabrina
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  WE DEMAND MORE! Give Us More, More, More! (Jan 04 KM)

  by metatron in

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  another lovely kingdom ministry.

  some quotes:.

  "some people think that jehovah's witnesses should focus their efforts more directly.

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  The "Bible educational work" the humble Jews of the first century received from their religious leaders included a large burden of rules and regulations added to the Law. The brothers still in the Org. suffer under a similar burden.

  I would like to ask the Society why is it the humble people who were drawn to Jesus did not need five meetings a week to help them understand who Jesus was and how to follow him? How is it that Peter, John and the others followed Jesus and became apostles without ever opening a Watchtower?

  Sabrina
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  Bruce Almighty

  by Stefanie in

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  i love that movie.

  i have to say its my all time favorite movie.

  i love the whole concept of it.

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  I loved that movie! I think it's one of the best movies about God ever made.

  Be the miracle....that's so good so very good. We can be a miracle for so many others and at times even for ourselves.

  Great movie.

  Sabrina
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  I Am a Christian

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  i am a former jw just as many here are.

  i have left the watchtower just as many here also have.

  i also died as many here have.. i died, i cried, i died again.

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  Greenpalmtreestillmine

  My sincere thanks to everyone who responded to my thread.

  I love you all.

  Sabrina
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  I Am a Christian

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

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  i am a former jw just as many here are.

  i have left the watchtower just as many here also have.

  i also died as many here have.. i died, i cried, i died again.

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  Dave,

  I posted my religious opinion on a religious thread. I have not posted as far as I can remember a "preachy" comment. If I have then it was most unintentional.

  I have refrained from posting on religious threads because to argue religion is in my opinion not productive. The "Born Again?" thread was however a subject which I thougt was not only interesting but important so I posted.

  If my post was preachy in some way then I apologize but if it was just an expression of my opinion why was I vilified for it? I understand that religion has caused much hurt but Dave, I myself have not caused that hurt. I am just a person who seeks to understand and who loves God. If someone like me is not welcome to post their views without malicious expressions towards their beliefs being thrown at them then we have not moved too far from the place we have come from.

  I am not an enemy though I am a Christian. Neither am I a dog to be spat upon.

  Sabrina
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  I Am a Christian

  by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

  1. jw
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  i am a former jw just as many here are.

  i have left the watchtower just as many here also have.

  i also died as many here have.. i died, i cried, i died again.

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  I am a former JW just as many here are. I have left the Watchtower just as many here also have. I also died as many here have.

  I died, I cried, I died again. I cling to my God now.

  Is it really so bad that I continue to be a Christian? Is it really so bad that I continue to believe?

  I have no one but you people yet it has been shown to me on the "Born Again?" thread that I am not really welcome here because I am a Christian. Both JT and Dave have degraded my beliefs. They have made great assumptions but without knowledge of my beliefs.

  I have never degraded atheists or agnostics. I have never degraded people of other faiths why is it then that my religious beliefs are degraded?

  Sabrina
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  Born Again?

  by IT Support in

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  to those who consider themselves christian.... is it possible to be a christian without being 'born again'?.

  did you get baptised again after leaving jws?.

  confused.... ken.

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  JT,

  You have no idea what I believe yet you proceed to not only demean my unstated beliefs but also to speak about me in the third person.

  If I have offended you in some way then please accept my apologies. I am not here to argue in fact that was one of things that caused me to hesitate posting here in the first place. If you had asked me why I said what I did I would have been more than happy to answer. It seems though you have your own beliefs as to what my beliefs are so there is no point in discussing it is there?

  I hope you had a good Christmas.

  Goodnight.

  Sabrina
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  Born Again?

  by IT Support in

  1. watchtower
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  to those who consider themselves christian.... is it possible to be a christian without being 'born again'?.

  did you get baptised again after leaving jws?.

  confused.... ken.

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  JT,

  What the Watchtower taught is not what Jesus taught. I'm a Johannine Christian which means that I accept the testimony of the Gospel known as the Gospel of John as the closest to what the Christ taught.

  In the Gospel of John Christ taught inclusion not exclusion. So I agree with you that God will not destroy people simply because they are not born again Christians or because they are not Christians at all. It is a person's heart that matters and not their outside religious or non-religious garb.

  Sabrina
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  what happened to 'leaving' the congregation?

  by Pleasuredome in

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  the last time i read 'do you shun former members?

  ' at http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm i'm sure it said that people could 'simply leave without being shunned' or something along them lines.

  am i wrong or has this been changed recently?

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  Yes many times a careful fader does avoid shunning. It means though choosing between your family and friends and your freedom to live your life as you would like.

  It's not an easy thing to do either way.

  Sabrina