Sabrina
Greenpalmtreestillmine
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Was the US intended to be a "Christian nation"?
by logansrun injefferson?s ?bible?
the life and selected writings of thomas jefferson.
the life and selected writings of thomas jefferson.
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Was the US intended to be a "Christian nation"?
by logansrun injefferson?s ?bible?
the life and selected writings of thomas jefferson.
the life and selected writings of thomas jefferson.
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Logansrun,
I really enjoyed what you wrote and I agree with it. What's remarkable really is that while there were Deists among those who founded the U.S. there were also Christians involved in the whole process yet freedom of religion and separation of church and state became law. All of this of course made it much easier for the United States to become a place that could welcome peoples from all places and religions. A place where we each have the freedom to worship how we want or even if we want.
There is one point though with which I will disagree. I do not believe all this was just luck. The bringing together of these men, at that particular time and in this land was in my opinion not luck but rather divine intervention. Think of it, could any group of politicians today agree enough to produce such a document as the Constitution and its Bill of Rights? It seems almost impossible to me.
Thank you for an excellent post.
Sabrina
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Something Good In Your Life
by Greenpalmtreestillmine injust thought it would be great to hear from everyone here about something good that's happening in your life.
so much is said about the watchtower and it needs to be said but i thought it would be nice to hear some good things about our lives.. for me what is good in my life right now is the containers of vegetables and flowers i am looking forward to planting, the fine music i'm listening to at this moment and being here with you all.
sabrina
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Thanks so much!
I hope everyone here has a better today than yesterday and an even better tomorrow! It's not my birthday but your replies made me feel as if it was.
Sabrina
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So, Why Does God Permit Wickedness?
by minimus inwhat would say to someone that asks you that question now?
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
HS,
When I mention animals, I mean animal life. Insects, fish, invertebrate, plants from the smallest to the greatest, not just mammals. Every living thing on this planet needs the lives and deaths of others to survive, it is the way it works.
I am sorry, I misunderstood. I don't think of eating plants as violent or coming under the category of wickedness but I suppose it can be considered that if someone holds all life even that of plants as something sacred and valuable.
The earth is a contained place and life as we know it requires energy, life gets that energy from other life forms and so we do consume life. You're right about that.
But I still feel that there are more people who would run into a burning building to help someone than there are those who would fly a plane into one in order to kill. Whether God is right or wrong in allowing the extent of wickedness found on the earth is something which in my opinion we have no right to ask. We choose to rape, we choose to murder, we choose to war, we choose to destroy the environment, we choose to torture and so on. Most of us do not but those of us who do bear the responsibility of that. If God stopped all famines would there be no hungry children in the world? If God stopped all murderers would there be no war? If God stopped all diseases would we give up those practices that harm our health? If God stopped anything we would find a way to continue it if we wanted to.
I don't mean to argue about this and I hope I'm not coming across as if I am. Just trying to express my feelings, something which I am very grateful for on this board.
My best regards also,
Sabrina
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So, Why Does God Permit Wickedness?
by minimus inwhat would say to someone that asks you that question now?
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
HS,
It seems to escape the notice of most traditional, and indeed many non-traditional believers that this earth, if it shows Gods hand within its design is a slaughterhouse, where every animal from the most microscopic to the largest has to kill and feed on the bodies of others to survive. A vast killing field where the camouflage of deceit is at play continually and where many animals, and indeed many humans live in fear of their lives on a continual basis.
There is more good than bad on the earth. The Watchtower always emphasized the negative things going on in order to get us to believe their teachings but the earth has more good people doing good things than the other way around. As for animals killing other animals for food I believe more animals in the wild die from old age, disease or accident than by animal predators.
Things are not great but they are not all bad either.
Sabrina
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Emotional Day
by Puternut ini am having one of those days.
it all started yesterday when i was picking up some work from a client yesterday nearby.
when i walked in the store, the nora jones cd was playing and i became emotional.
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Puternut,
I have no words to say........my heart goes out to you.
You are not alone in your grief we are here.
Sabrina
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So, Why Does God Permit Wickedness?
by minimus inwhat would say to someone that asks you that question now?
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Why does God permit wickedness?
How do we know what he permits or not? How do we know that the earth would not be a much more violent and wicked place without God's intervention at times?
I believe God has intervened in mankinds affairs when his intervention was necessary to enable those who were working for positive change to succeed. God does not exist to answer all our questions or our requests. He is working to see this thing through to its final end, the happiness and everlasting life of mankind.
Well, that's my belief.
Sabrina
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Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
by desib77 injust want to vent.......hope you don't mind.. my mother (jw) and her husband (also jw) had asked to take my husband and i out to eat for our anniversary.
since she really doesn't come to visit much (even though i'm only an hour away) i thought it would be nice.................a couple of nights ago she called me to tell me that instead of taking us out to eat that weekend they had decided to take the c.o.
out to eat.......................now, tell me does that seem right to you?
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
I'm so sorry Desi. The most hurt in our lives comes from those we love.
I hope you and your husband go out and have a great anniversary just the two of you, free from any fear of breaking eggshells.
It's good to be free and to be with those who love us for who we are and not for who they want us to be.
HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!
Sabrina
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Something Good In Your Life
by Greenpalmtreestillmine injust thought it would be great to hear from everyone here about something good that's happening in your life.
so much is said about the watchtower and it needs to be said but i thought it would be nice to hear some good things about our lives.. for me what is good in my life right now is the containers of vegetables and flowers i am looking forward to planting, the fine music i'm listening to at this moment and being here with you all.
sabrina
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Hi everybody,
Just thought it would be great to hear from everyone here about something good that's happening in your life. So much is said about the Watchtower and it needs to be said but I thought it would be nice to hear some good things about our lives.
For me what is good in my life right now is the containers of vegetables and flowers I am looking forward to planting, the fine music I'm listening to at this moment and being here with you all.
Sabrina
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Jehovah's Witnesses / Apostate statistics.....
by ScoobySnax inok ok....don't bite at the "apostate" label.
but recently someone on here told me that disaffected/inactive/d/f jws now must out number jws as a whole.. i (funny enough) disagreed.
does anyone have proof otherwise?
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Greenpalmtreestillmine
Over 95% of the active brothers I knew in many congregations are still in the Organization. So from my small experience the so called apostate brothers do not outnumber JWs still active, at least in the congregations I have been in.
Maybe the experiences of others has been different. How many active brothers in your old hall have left the Witnesses?
Sabrina