Posts by Leprechaun

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What hope is there then?

by sayitsnotso in

if jws don't have the truth; if there is no paradise earth; if there is no end of this system; if death is all there is, then what hope do we have to look forward too?.

It has taken leaving the Jehovah’s witnesses to allow myself, to learn and accept that salvation comes by Grace from Jehovah, not because of anything we do, humans can never on their own attain salvation or coheres god into giving them life (salvation).

This concept of Jehovah’s Witnesses has been their biggest fallacy or (spiritual downfall), that of earning your way into salvation or gods favor. The Ransom price paid in behalf of all mankind for a true student of the bible should instill in them a deep appreciation and a feeling of security for the future, knowing that this provision covers every human that has ever been born. He offered up his son for everyone, during the reign of his son then all mankind the resurrected ones as well as those living (will) have really their first authentic chance at learning and accepting, and progressively attaining perfection. Then we can know what it’s like to really live.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and the Malawi and Mexico Fiasco

by Leprechaun in

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friends

there are many witness friends of mine who tell me give me some hard evidence, of the jehovah's witnesses and the malawi and mexico cruelty endured hypocritically under the direction of the society.

can you all help me oouut here for the sake of some good hearted ones.

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Leprechaun

There are many Witness friends of mine who tell me give me some hard evidence, of the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Malawi and Mexico cruelty endured hypocritically under the direction of the Society. Can you all help me oouut here for the sake of some good hearted ones.

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I HAVE JUST BEEN APPOINTED AS A MINISTERIAL SERVANT.

by african GB Member in

after being reinstated in 2008, i was finally appointed ms last night.. i am so excited now that i have a certain measure of 'power'.. ex-ms's/elders, what types of challenges come with this priviledge?.

what will be expected from me?.

Leprechaun

Well, for one think you better walk like Duck and Quack like Duck and look like Duck there Harvey.

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Tuesday, May 11th Daily Text - The nerve!!!

by Girlie in

just thought i would share what the borg is dispensing as "spiritual food at the proper time" .. .

tuesday, may 11. quickly.

they forgot his works; they did not wait for his counsel.ps.106:13.. some may have left gods flock because they did not agree with some scriptural teaching.

Leprechaun

Oh boo who. One has to first know for sure that it is the truth, and if you are banned or sanctioned from reading opposing material that may or may not say something derogatory about the WTBTS, then it’s time to wake up you duffus and admit that maybe you are in a cult their Virginia. My god some people have their heads so far up the hind den or a religion or grooup of men they just can’t see the light of day or smell the cat food. Get a Life fools.

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New CO talk: Be loyal to Org. even if you get weird instructions or can prove them wrong doctrinally!

by sir82 in

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friends

theme was something about "loyalty to jehovah's visible organization".. i have neither the time nor inclination to summarize the whole thing, but a few points stood out:.

even if it causes you personal hardship.

example: joshua & caleb returned from spy trip to promised land with good report, but were "outvoted" by the other 10 spies.

Leprechaun

Re: New CO talk: Be loyal to Org. even if you get weird instructions or can prove them wrong doctrinally! posted a day ago (5/7/2010)
So did God protect the jws that listened in 1967 and did not have organ transpants; no they died. Reminds me how when David committed adultery and murder, his family and other people died, not him. His wives were raped, the child died, his older sons died, they killed other people seeking the kingship. Did those Bible Student groups really disappear? http://www.jehovahs-witnesses.net/sscc12.html

Re: New CO talk: Be loyal to Org. even if you get weird instructions or can prove them wrong doctrinally! posted a day ago (5/7/2010)

So did God protect the jws that listened in 1967 and did not have organ transpants; no they died. Reminds me how when David committed adultery and murder, his family and other people died, not him. His wives were raped, the child died, his older sons died, they killed other people seeking the kingship.

Did those Bible Student groups really disappear?

http://www.jehovahs-witnesses.net/sscc12.html

Blondie you never cease amazing me with your logical reasoning along these lines. I have great respect for the “Associated Bible Students” that are scattered throughout the world; they have not evolved themselves into a cult with its thin veneer like the Watchtower Society has. Keep up the good work.

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Is Jehovah Telling the Governing Body to Shut Down?

by metatron in

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is the governing body haunted by the thought that jehovah is telling them no and shut down?.

rutherford is reported to have sought cash and rationed coal as a test of jehovah's will.

knorr reported on getting an unexpected windfall of cash when they sought to buy the towers hotel.. but from where i sit, jehovah seems to have become very ungenerous towards these would-be theocrats, in recent years.. they dumped subscriptions.. they cut literature.. they went to paperbacks.. they cut magazines, by my count, for the third time.. they laid off bethelites.. they sold off brooklyn buildings.. they sold off printing/binding equipment.. so, now their latest 'litmus test' of jehovah's will is to simply dump the magazines in one lump and tell people to only take what they need.

Leprechaun

Well first, don’t you know yet that Jehovah does not deal with or use the Jehovah’s Witness organization? If how they treat each other is any indication of how they match up to the scriptures admonition of “you will know my people by the love they show each other”, well, that pretty much knocks the ball (them) out of the stadium.

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A Very Solomn Warning!

by wannabe in

a very solemn warning!.

how many people today really understand the bible?

would we believe that, some or any, for that matter, of the mainline religious leader's of christendom's great system of religion, understand the bible well enough to teach it to their flock's?

Leprechaun

“solemn warning” well first to name your post in this manor smacks of arrogance. My first gut feeling was that you are a extra sanctimonious Jehovah’s Witness, who feels he can gain some brownie points with the almighty, and their-by earn his way to salvation, apart from his “amazing grace” he shows to all humans.

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Jehovahs Witnesses presumptive terms that that they apply to themselves

by Leprechaun in

jehovahs witnesses presumptive terms that that they apply to themselves: help me point out some more presumptive terms that do manipulate people by hearing it all the time.. .

1. gods clean organization" (as though, they are aware of all hidden secrets within the rank and file at any given moment , and they are arthorized from god to declare someone clean or not clean when in reality it is christ ransom that accomplishes this.).

2. the christian congregation" (as though, no one else can lay claim to being christian or christ like".

Leprechaun

Jehovah’s Witnesses presumptive terms that that they apply to themselves:

Help me point out some more presumptive terms that do manipulate people by hearing it all the time.

1. Gods clean organization" (As though, t hey are aware of all hidden secrets within the rank and file at any given moment , and they are arthorized from god to declare someone clean or not clean when in reality it is Christ ransom that accomplishes this. )

2. The Christian congregation" (As though, no one else can lay claim to being christian or Christ like".)

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Getting into Arguments with JW's...

by ForbiddenFruit in

i'm trying to fade away, but i sometimes find myself in discussions or arguments with jw family/friends/white haired virgin elders.

now, i usually have them beat on things but i'm not very experienced, so i was thinking if you guys could help me put together a list of completely unanswerable questions to pose to my jw friends/family/elders so they can stop bugging me.

if i keep asking them questions they simply cannot answer, then they might leave them alone.

Leprechaun

Sociality" means Society I did not spell it right, sorry.

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Getting into Arguments with JW's...

by ForbiddenFruit in

i'm trying to fade away, but i sometimes find myself in discussions or arguments with jw family/friends/white haired virgin elders.

now, i usually have them beat on things but i'm not very experienced, so i was thinking if you guys could help me put together a list of completely unanswerable questions to pose to my jw friends/family/elders so they can stop bugging me.

if i keep asking them questions they simply cannot answer, then they might leave them alone.

Leprechaun

Basically being a Jehovah’s Witness and worshiping Jehovah is two different things entirely, now that I am out of the influences of the Witnesses, I feel I can worship god in spirit and truth unfiltered by the Sociality. Why should the conscious of a few men rule my god given conscious, that god gave to each man and women. I guess it boils down to the fact the Society's chief aim is to be a cult and make us all puppets rather than true Christians. anyone that can not see this fact just needs more time being abused by the Borg.