20 years!! WOW!
Congrats!!!
Greven
big tex, honey, it's been a grand ride so far and i look forward to the next 20 years.
you're my soulmate, my lover, my best friend, and never, ever boring.
i love you!!!!
20 years!! WOW!
Congrats!!!
Greven
i'm "cooking fat" (at least my name sounds like that when he calls me in) scooby's cat, and whilst scoobs is away at the meeting,(you wouldn't see me dead in there) i thought i'd grab the chance to post in his absence.
my problem is that he insists on feeding me kit-e-kat, when what i really want is whiskers supermeat.
he reckons that only apostates feed their cats whiskers in this time of the end.... and i can't think why.
It didn't work? Well what'd expect from a master that uses a DOG as avatar....?
Hang in there CF!
Greven
it always surprises me just how many long - departed ex's refer to their life in the witnesses as being time spent "in the truth".. imho, every time we use that particular phrase, we are just re-imprinting ourselves with an old belief system that triggers off negative feelings about ourselves?.
when we talk about our past experiences, isn't it better to refer to them simply as being "when i was a jehovah's witness"?.
after all, isn't it an incredibly stupid action to leave "the truth"?.
IMHO, every time we use that particular phrase, we are just re-imprinting ourselves with an old belief system that triggers off negative feelings about ourselves?
You are completely right about this. Subtle slang and imprinting words are repeated over and over until we know hardly any other ways of putting it.
I usually say 'when I left the Borg'...or something like that. I never use 'in The Truth' anyway because even as a JW I found it a weird way of putting it...for example: 'is he in the truth?' sounds very weird to me...I mean...like there is The Truth and The Lie...odd really.
Greven
the public talk was on "loyalty"- ...speaker gave examples of loyalty in bible times...i.e: esau and jacob...esau sold his birthright for a bowl of stew...not loyal of him.
david was loyal, even though he "erred" when he messed around with bathsheba, then plotted to murder her husband.
we need to be loyal.
reading faith on the march is about the same as reading proclaimers.
Take this pearl for example:
***Faith on the March 51 ***
Following this pattern, 2,520 days in the prophecy become 2,520 years in the fulfillment. If the length of time of uninterrupted Gentile rule of earth's nations was to be 2,520 years, then the period would run from the fall of 607 B.C. to A.D. 1914. On the basis of this chronology the time of Christ's second presence and the beginning of his kingdom rule was confidently expected in the fall of A.D. 1914, and Russell was prompted to announce confidently in October, 1914, "The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day."
blatent lie! Christ's second presence was dated 1874 up until 1929. This was never 'confidently expected' to happen on 1914.
'Nuff said.
Greven
i just obtained a copy of one of the new releases from the summer jw district conventions, learn from the great teacher.
this book is oriented towards children, and frankly, is a stereotypical piece of propaganda from the "faithful and discreet slave".
in some ways the book is incredibly revealing, since it has to break down a number of ridiculous jw teachings into a form that even jw children can swallow, and when those teachings are put into simplest form their ridiculousness is evident to everyone but small children and stereotypically braindead jws.
Today some young boys and girls have sex relations, but this is wrong for them. The Bible talks about the male "genital organ," or penis. (Leviticus 15:1-3) The female genital parts are called the vulva. Jehovah created these parts of the body for a special purpose that should be enjoyed only by married people. It makes the demons happy when people do things that are forbidden by Jehovah. For example, the demons like it when a boy and a girl play with each others' penis or vulva. We don't want to make the demons happy, do we?
LMAO! However I think this is a prime example of cult-like indoctrination. Scary shit really...
Greven
hey.
god is betting because he said to satan: you may have 1000 years (or something like that) to ; i don't know how to say that.
- to ( just like admam and eve ).. god is betting, am i right?.
That's a sick game allright, letting billions of people suffer pointless lifes and horrible deaths just to prove a point. Weird when you think about it... however I do not recall the bible saying anything about betting or other forms of gambling...
Take a look at these texts:
See, there was some heavy betting going on in those days.....
Greven
i find it curious when jws come here.
i would not want to go into any room or place and debate people who knew much more than i do, yet they do it.
i guess the scripture, "pride goes before a fall" fits people like this.
I think they are curious, looking for conformation that we are wrong afteral, defending their viewpoint etc etc. Surprise surprise most of us had solid reasons to l;eave and are not afraid to debate them. We should however keep our goal in mind: to inform them. We are not here to de-convert them. We should inform them. Then when they can see both sides the choice is up to them. It doesn't really matter whether they leave or stay. At least our goal has then been accomplished: their choice has become an informed one. And that's what counts.
So don't jump on SOJ or Scooby as soon as they show their faces. They have made an informed choice at least, something most JW's are deprived off.
Greven
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this is from c. 1987, when i was still living in the church run "guys' house":.
Steph:I slept with my hand between two pillows....
Merv: Those weren't pillows!
Greven
i'm "cooking fat" (at least my name sounds like that when he calls me in) scooby's cat, and whilst scoobs is away at the meeting,(you wouldn't see me dead in there) i thought i'd grab the chance to post in his absence.
my problem is that he insists on feeding me kit-e-kat, when what i really want is whiskers supermeat.
he reckons that only apostates feed their cats whiskers in this time of the end.... and i can't think why.
Hi C_F!
You are one smart cat using the internet and all...about your problem:
you see Scoobs insists on feeding me Kit-e-Kat when what I really want is Whiskas Supermeat, apparently Scoobs says that Whiskas is apostate and food of the devil in this time of the end.
Don't try to argue this one. Whiskas is not apostate, just expensive. So the solution is to make it absolutely the only possible choice. Fake an allergy to Kit-e-Kat: when presented with it take a few bites then go into a wild coughing frenzy, run around the house like you're barking mad, climb the curtains and atack the plants, then suddenly, fall down lie on your back with your feet up. Repeat until presented with better food. (you didn't got this advice from me. This conversation never happened. happy hunting!)
Greven
hello my name is "cooking fat" (don't know why he calls me that, but thats what it sounds like when he calls me in late at night) ... and i'm scooby's cat.
scoobs is at the meeting (wouldn't catch me dead there) and i thought i'd make use of the opportunity to tell you my problem...... you see scoobs insists on feeding me kit-e-kat when what i really want is whiskas supermeat, apparently scoobs says that whiskas is apostate and food of the devil in this time of the end.
i've purred, meaowwed and done my best to change his view, but he's having none of it.
Hi C_F!
You are one smart cat using the internet and all...about your problem:
you see Scoobs insists on feeding me Kit-e-Kat when what I really want is Whiskas Supermeat, apparently Scoobs says that Whiskas is apostate and food of the devil in this time of the end.
Don't try to argue this one. Whiskas is not apostate, just expensive. So the solution is to make it absolutely the only possible choice. Fake an allergy to Kit-e-Kat: when presented with it take a few bites then go into a wild coughing frenzy, run around the house like you're barking mad, climb the curtains and atack the plants, then suddenly, fall down lie on your back with your feet up. Repeat until presented with better food. (you didn't got this advice from me. This conversation never happened. happy hunting!)
Greven