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  BIG TEX & CRUZANHEART -- 20 YEARS TOMORROW!!!! (6/4/83 to 6/4/03)

  by cruzanheart in

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  big tex, honey, it's been a grand ride so far and i look forward to the next 20 years.

  you're my soulmate, my lover, my best friend, and never, ever boring.

  i love you!!!!

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  greven

  20 years!! WOW!

  Congrats!!!

  Greven
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  New here.. Scoobys cat and I'm confused...

  by ScoobySnax in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm "cooking fat" (at least my name sounds like that when he calls me in) scooby's cat, and whilst scoobs is away at the meeting,(you wouldn't see me dead in there) i thought i'd grab the chance to post in his absence.

  my problem is that he insists on feeding me kit-e-kat, when what i really want is whiskers supermeat.

  he reckons that only apostates feed their cats whiskers in this time of the end.... and i can't think why.

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  greven

  It didn't work? Well what'd expect from a master that uses a DOG as avatar....?

  Hang in there CF!

  Greven
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  Are You Unwittingly Brain Washing Yourself?

  by Englishman in

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  it always surprises me just how many long - departed ex's refer to their life in the witnesses as being time spent "in the truth".. imho, every time we use that particular phrase, we are just re-imprinting ourselves with an old belief system that triggers off negative feelings about ourselves?.

  when we talk about our past experiences, isn't it better to refer to them simply as being "when i was a jehovah's witness"?.

  after all, isn't it an incredibly stupid action to leave "the truth"?.

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  greven

  IMHO, every time we use that particular phrase, we are just re-imprinting ourselves with an old belief system that triggers off negative feelings about ourselves?

  You are completely right about this. Subtle slang and imprinting words are repeated over and over until we know hardly any other ways of putting it.

  I usually say 'when I left the Borg'...or something like that. I never use 'in The Truth' anyway because even as a JW I found it a weird way of putting it...for example: 'is he in the truth?' sounds very weird to me...I mean...like there is The Truth and The Lie...odd really.

  Greven
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  I went to the meeting Sunday.............

  by integ in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  the public talk was on "loyalty"- ...speaker gave examples of loyalty in bible times...i.e: esau and jacob...esau sold his birthright for a bowl of stew...not loyal of him.

  david was loyal, even though he "erred" when he messed around with bathsheba, then plotted to murder her husband.

  we need to be loyal.

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  greven

  reading faith on the march is about the same as reading proclaimers.

  Take this pearl for example:

  ***Faith on the March 51 ***

  Following this pattern, 2,520 days in the prophecy become 2,520 years in the fulfillment. If the length of time of uninterrupted Gentile rule of earth's nations was to be 2,520 years, then the period would run from the fall of 607 B.C. to A.D. 1914. On the basis of this chronology the time of Christ's second presence and the beginning of his kingdom rule was confidently expected in the fall of A.D. 1914, and Russell was prompted to announce confidently in October, 1914, "The Gentile times have ended; their kings have had their day."

  blatent lie! Christ's second presence was dated 1874 up until 1929. This was never 'confidently expected' to happen on 1914.

  'Nuff said.

  Greven
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  Sex in the New Book "Learn from the Great Teacher"

  by AlanF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just obtained a copy of one of the new releases from the summer jw district conventions, learn from the great teacher.

  this book is oriented towards children, and frankly, is a stereotypical piece of propaganda from the "faithful and discreet slave".

  in some ways the book is incredibly revealing, since it has to break down a number of ridiculous jw teachings into a form that even jw children can swallow, and when those teachings are put into simplest form their ridiculousness is evident to everyone but small children and stereotypically braindead jws.

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  Today some young boys and girls have sex relations, but this is wrong for them. The Bible talks about the male "genital organ," or penis. (Leviticus 15:1-3) The female genital parts are called the vulva. Jehovah created these parts of the body for a special purpose that should be enjoyed only by married people. It makes the demons happy when people do things that are forbidden by Jehovah. For example, the demons like it when a boy and a girl play with each others' penis or vulva. We don't want to make the demons happy, do we?

  LMAO! However I think this is a prime example of cult-like indoctrination. Scary shit really...

  Greven
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  The bet of god

  by Cadaver in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey.

  god is betting because he said to satan: you may have 1000 years (or something like that) to ; i don't know how to say that.

  - to ( just like admam and eve ).. god is betting, am i right?.

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  greven

  That's a sick game allright, letting billions of people suffer pointless lifes and horrible deaths just to prove a point. Weird when you think about it... however I do not recall the bible saying anything about betting or other forms of gambling...

  Take a look at these texts:

• Numbers 26:52-56 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ... the land shall be divided by lot.
• Joshua 14:2 By lot was their inheritance, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses.
• Joshua 18:6 Ye shall therefore describe the land into seven parts, and bring the description hither to me, that I may cast lots for you here before the LORD our God.
• Joshua 19:51 These are the inheritances, which Eleazar the priest, and Joshua the son of Nun, and the heads of the fathers of the tribes of the children of Israel, divided for an inheritance by lot in Shiloh before the LORD.
• Joshua 21:8 And the children of Israel gave by lot unto the Levites these cities with their suburbs, as the LORD commanded by the hand of Moses.
• 1 Chr.26:13-14 And they cast lots, as well the small as the great, according to the house of their fathers, for every gate. And the lot eastward fell to Shelemiah. Then for Zechariah his son, a wise counsellor, they cast lots; and his lot came out northward.
• Nehemiah 10:34 And we cast the lots among the priests, the Levites, and the people, for the wood offering, to bring it into the house of our God.
• Acts 1:23-26 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen.... And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

See, there was some heavy betting going on in those days.....

Greven