Posts by greven

i did talk to my dad last night and he seemed to think that grandpa was going to be ok. i had a birthday party with nine little girls all afternoon and was completely out of touch as a result.. i think she could use a hug, don't you?.

greven

((((Mulan)))))

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James Ossury is a fake

by Abaddon in

the james ossury, and another piece (a inscription relating to repairs to the temple) have today been declared fakes by the body of scientists tasked by the israeli antiquities authority; no url reference, this is off the radio (bbc world service).

greven

The WT is not going to like this: they had an article in the WT about it a few weeks ago....

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Anti-atheism

by drwtsn32 in

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(disclaimer: this is not intended to offend theists... just to make fun of these lines of reasoning used to attack atheism.

no purchase necessary.

void where prohibited.

greven

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot, this is a remarkable piece from that same site again:

‘Facts’ are neutral. However, there are no such things as ‘brute facts’; all facts are interpreted. Once the Bible is eliminated in the argument, then the Christians’ presuppositions are gone, leaving them unable to effectively give an alternate interpretation of the facts. Their opponents then have the upper hand as they still have their presuppositions

This points out exactly their flaw: they do not look at the data and try to interpret this. No, they interpret a book and let that interpretation be their presupposition. Then they try to fit the data found with the interpretation of this book. Data that points to something the book does not is either rejected or reinterpreted.

Greven

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Anti-atheism

by drwtsn32 in

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(disclaimer: this is not intended to offend theists... just to make fun of these lines of reasoning used to attack atheism.

no purchase necessary.

void where prohibited.

greven

Great points Dr watson!

Also from this site:

"Evidence

Creationists and evolutionists, Christians and non-Christians all have the same evidence—the same facts. Think about it: we all have the same earth, the same fossil layers, the same animals and plants, the same stars—the facts are all the same.

The difference is in the way we all interpret the facts. And why do we interpret facts differently? Because we start with different presuppositions. These are things that are assumed to be true, without being able to prove them. These then become the basis for other conclusions. All reasoning is based on presuppositions (also called axioms). This becomes especially relevant when dealing with past events."

Presuppositions are statements that all parties agree on before starting the discussion. They are choses to have a common ground onto which each can build a line of reasoning. They are not statements that cannot be proven! Far from it! They simply do not need to be proven because all parties agree upon up.

Now creationists often start with presuppositions that are unprovable. And rightly so these are the fist target for an atheist's refutation.

Greven

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the WOMAN, the LEGEND, the DARE, the DANCE, the PROOF, the...the DUTCH

by SpiceItUp in

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pizza hut, pizza hut.

kentucky fried chicken.

and a pizza hut..... mcdonalds, mcdonalds.

greven

Now who can deny her divinity when there is tangible proof of this very fact?

WOOOOOOFFFF!!!

Greven

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Just who was this Jesus character?

by Holey_Cheeses*King_of_the juice. in

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there are three good reasons to believe that jesus was afro-american:he called everyone 'brother',he liked gospel,he couldn't get a fair trial.. but then, there are three equally good reasons to believe that jesus was jewish:he followed into his father's business,he lived at home until he was 33,he was sure his mother was a virgin, and his mother was sure he was god.. but then again, there are three compelling reasons to believe that jesus was italian:he talked with his hands,he had wine with every meal,he used olive oil.. but then again, there are three reasons to believe that jesus was californian:he never cut his hair,he walked around barefoot all the time,he started a new religion.. but, then again, there are three equally good reasons to believe that jesus was irish:he never got married,he was always telling stories,he loved green pastures.. but the most compelling evidence of all - three proofs that jesus was a woman:he fed a crowd at a moments notice when there was no food,he kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it,and, even when he was dead, he had to get up because there was more work to do.. cheeses - who says, if anyone is offended....well,......that's just a bit of bad luck.

greven

One most compelling reason why Jesus was an American:

He had no humor whatsoever.

No jokes, no witty comments, deadly serious bloke really.

Greven