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  are there any collectors of books by or about JW's here?

  by ninja in

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  2. bible

  how big is your library?

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  I Do! Do you need a page scanned?

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  Valentine Poems for that someone special

  by moomanchu in

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  2. humour

  my darling, my lover, my beautiful wife:?.

  marrying you screwed up my life.. .

  i see your face when i am dreaming.. that's why i always wake up screaming.. .

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  I can see this getting you lucky!!!!!

  Music to my ears....not even after a fewbeers.

  haha

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  .."Rock n Roll Jesus"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ...."rock n roll jesus"....the title of "kid rock`s" newest cd!...........................the title song rocks!..thats for sure..crank it up and blow the doors off your vehicle!..the rest of the cd is good with the exception of 1 tune that uses "werewolf of london music" and kid rock lyrics................have you heard any of the cuts off this cd..and..what did you think.........................outlaw

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  http://www.muchmusic.com/music/firstspin/kidrock/
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  Being known on JWD - unable to discuss VERY personal matters.

  by kwintestal in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  for some time now, my wife and i have met various people on jwd and we've developped close friendships with many of them over the years.

  we have family members who post on here as well.

  believe me, i wouldn't lose these relationships for the world.

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  Hope4Others

  I'm fairly new to the board. And I have given this very much thought. I guess I feel that it is good to limit what you say that gives you away. Although many would like to make new friends

  here, I try to remember that you really don't know who anyone really is here. So being a friend just on the board is close enough for me. I think there are ways to talk about important

  issues in around about way if that is your desire or need. I think there are some that a genuinely compassionate and will keep things "in a tomb" as the saying goes.

  Best Wishes & Good Luck to All

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  Headline= Saudi Arabia to behead "Witch" ???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  daily telegraph feb 16. saudi religious police plan to behead a woman accused of being a witch.

  human rights watch has asked the countries king to intervene over "absurd charges that have no basis in law.

  " fawza falih was arrested and interrogated in the town of quraiyat two years ago and sentenced to death.

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  Someone put this up a couple of days ago the whole article. It is quite interesting. Kinda makes you sick how people can drum up accusations with no actual proof.

  The life of people in these other countries, I really feel for them. I'm grateful to live in a country that I do.

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  Did you get to say Goodbye...?

  by strawberry cake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that they are conditional friends.

  i also know i will make more friends.

  i have said goodbye to some and upset the elders by telling jw friends that i don't believe the wts any more.

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  Hope4Others

  Due the the fact that you are voicing what you do believe now, there could df you before you even get a chance to send your letter. I'm sure they will give a talk on the next meeting isn't that what they usually do?

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  Authorities warn about choking game

  by Hope4Others in

  1. social
  2. family

  authorities warn against risky 'choking game' after u.s. study reports 82 deaths.

  helen branswell, medical reporter, the canadian press.

  14/02/2008 8:50:00 pm .

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  Authorities warn against risky 'choking game' after U.S. study reports 82 deaths

  Helen Branswell, Medical Reporter, THE CANADIAN PRESS

  14/02/2008 8:50:00 PM

  TORONTO - At least 82 children and teens in the United States have died over the past 12 years playing what's known as "the choking game," the U.S. Centers for Disease Control said Thursday as it urged parents to look for telltale signs their adolescents may be partaking in the dangerous fad.

  Canadian authorities have also been studying the phenomenon, and have data that show 74 hospitalizations of children who survived the game at least long enough to get to hospital. But not all do. A website set up by the family of one boy who died after accidentally suffocating himself has received reports of 38 deaths in this country.

  The boy, Jesse Grant, 12, died in April 2005, after choking himself on a computer cord. He learned the game he called "black out" at summer camp the previous year. The game is also know as space monkey, the scarf game, and the pass-out game, and five minutes to heaven, among other names.

  His family, which lives near Barrie, Ont., started an organization and website called GASP - Games Adolescents Shouldn't Play - to gather statistics and get out the word on the dangers of the choking game.

  "It just keeps going on like a bad weed," his mother, Sharron Grant, said Thursday, noting she remembers seeing kids playing it when she was 15. People as old as 82 have e-mailed the website to say they remember playing the game as children.

  The choking game involves intentionally choking oneself or being choked by someone else to the point of almost losing consciousness or actually fainting. The lack of oxygen induces a brief state of euphoria or a high.

  While all acknowledge the game has been around for years, the CDC said Thursday there appear to be some new twists that may be behind what looks like a spike in cases.

  Robin Toblin, the study's lead author, said the reports of deaths point to increased use of ligatures and of children or teens attempting to induce the state while on their own. If something goes wrong, there is no one to call for help.

  "Because most parents in the study had not heard of the choking game, we hope to raise awareness of the choking game among parents, health-care providers and educators, so they can recognize warning signs of the activity," said Toblin, who is with the CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.

  Steven McFaull, an injury prevention researcher with the Public Health Agency of Canada, has searched for evidence of choking game cases in the databases of the Canadian Hospitals Injury Reporting and Prevention Program, a network of 14 pediatric and general hospitals around the country that collect injury statistics.

  McFaull found reports of 74 children or teens brought into hospital with injuries sustained during choking games. One of the children died.

  "What we're seeing in our database really are what we've called the secondary injuries, where they've passed out or at least got close to it, lost their footing," he said, adding he'd like to do more work to get a better handle on how widely and how often the games are being played.

  "If there were no kids around to catch them, then they've basically done what we might call a dead-man drop."

  Those falls caused broken bones and head injuries. But experts say that when kids use ropes, nooses and other ligatures, what started out as a way to get a drug-free rush can have tragic consequences.

  Grant said GASP has received 38 reports of deaths among Canadian children, all but two of which dated from 1992 onward. And reports of deaths have come in from as far afield as Egypt, England, Australia, India and South Africa. (Grant says the website verifies deaths through conversations with family members and news reports before adding them to the site's statistics.)

  Dr. Andrew Macnab, a professor of pediatrics at the University of British Columbia, has been studying asphyxial games, as they are more properly called, since treating a child who was hospitalized after playing but who survived his injuries.

  A study Macnab conducted in Ontario showed that depending on the school, between 37 per cent and 68 per cent of children aged about 12 knew about the game. Alarmingly, almost half of them thought playing it posed no risks.

  "The few that I've been able to talk to said: 'We see people faint all the time, they always wake up, why would I think any different?"' Grant, whose organization had collaborated with Macnab, said.

  "They just have no idea. And it just baffles me still that they don't have that degree of 'Jeez, I could get hurt doing this."'

  About seven per cent of the children Macnab surveyed admitted having tried the game. "That's an awful lot of children," he said from Vancouver.

  Grant said she's been frustrated in efforts to get schools to teach children about the dangers of the choking game. She believes schools fear they may be teaching kids something they don't already know and could find themselves legally liable if a death occurred.

  "My reply to that is 'We aren't showing them anything that at least 50 per cent of them don't already know,"' she said, adding that those kids who haven't yet heard of the game need to learn that it can have fatal consequences.

  CDC officials warned parents to be on the lookout for signs their children might be playing the game.

  Most parents whose children died playing the game were unaware of the phenomenon before their child's death, the CDC experts warned.

  Signs include bloodshot eyes and marks on the neck, frequent and severe headaches or the unexplained presence of items like dog leashes, choke collars, bungee cords or ropes, scarves and belts tied to bedroom furniture.

  Most - 87 per cent - of the young people who died playing the game were males. Most of the cases clustered in the 11-to-16 age range, but children from six years old to 19 years old were among the reported deaths. (The researchers looked only for deaths in those under 20 years of age.) Deaths were reported in 31 states, with no evidence of clustering in certain areas.

  Three or fewer deaths a year were reported in the period from 1995 to 2004, says the study, which was based on media reports.

  But there were 22 deaths in 2005 and 35 in 2006. Nine were reported in the first 10 months of 2007; the researchers acknowledged they didn't know how to explain the decline.

  They said, however, that the study probably underestimates the numbers of deaths caused by the choking game that are actually occurring, because some deaths may be registered as suicides.

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  On the Net:

  The GASP website is found at http://www.deadlygameschildrenplay.com/en/home.asp

  What is it? Asphyxial games involve self-strangulation or strangulation of another person to the point where the person loses or almost loses consciousness. The lack of oxygen reportedly induces a rush or a high.

  Is it new? People studying the phenomenon say it's been around for generations.

  What's new now? Researchers at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control think there are some changes that are making the game more dangerous. They say kids appear to be more commonly using ligatures - nooses, belts, scarves - to self-strangle. And they say kids are doing it on their own - meaning there is no one to call for help if things go wrong.

  What are the stats? There are few, because these deaths can easily be confused with suicides. But the CDC says at least 82 kids in the U.S. have died since 1995. A Canadian group set up to draw attention to the problem says it knows of 38 deaths in Canada.

  Does it go by other names? In addition to "the choking game," the practice is called "blackout" or "the black out game," "the pass out game," "five minutes to heaven," "Harvey Wallbanger," "flat liner," "space monkey" and "suffocation roulette," among other names.

  WHO Dreams up this stuff to do?????
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  The Canadian Medical Card

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  these are the instructions and a sample card.

  it seems it's more comprehensive than last year.. for those who are interested in downloading a copy, it is hosted here for a short time.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/09yy5x.

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  Didn't I tell you? He's finally made "publisher", after six long years! woo......hoo How does that happen? Thats patience! Thanks for the Canadian medical file, I was wanting one for discussion with family. Hope4Others
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  Pay attention to yourself and your flock - secret elder book

  by MOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  have any of you got a hand on this book?

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  YES, I have 2 copies and 2 pdf files

  I'd love a pdf just to read thru.

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  C T Russells Divorce

  by chicken little in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  can anyone give me a thread on the courtcase that dealt with russells divorce?

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  This booklet in pdf for example: http://www.tj-encyclopedie.org/Readers_of_Zion_Watchtower

  Unfortunately I don't read french.

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