I like Ron Paul ForumS (with an "s" on the end, as there is also another RP forum without an "s" which is not the one I mean). I like the Ron Paul ForumS, you can surely keep up with the news there, and most people there are pretty smart/very aware about everything going on in the country/world. Only a few hateful retards who act up now and then, but for the most part, a very civil environment. And always interesting!
abbagail
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Venturing onto other forums
by Junction-Guy ini have been posting less at jwd and have been posting more on other sites that are non-jw related.. .
i have been posting some of my experiences there just to guage the reaction from the public.
so far, on most other boards, i have received mostly positive reviews.
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I went to the Catholic Church and...
by Awakened at Gilead inwell i hope none of you think i went over to the dark side, lol!.
we (gf and i) went to see a presentation of handel's messiah.
i was impressed with the beautiful choir voices and the string quintet and other players.
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Beautiful music, choirs, voices, lighting, ambience, candles, "ritual," etc. etc. could never make up for false doctrine.
False Doctrine + Pedo Priests = Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right.
"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth ANOTHER JESUS, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive ANOTHER SPIRIT, which ye have not received, or ANOTHER GOSPEL, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him" (2 Corinthians 11:3,4).
I would never step foot in a Catholic Church for any kind of service, no thanks.
(I was raised Catholic so I can say that).
I'd rather listen to Handel's Hallelujah Chorus on my cell's ringtone, which is my favorite, btw, vs. going to a CC to hear it.
But whatever floats your boat, you pagan scoundrels! ;-D
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COURT RULES VATICAN LIABLE for USA PEDO CASES - Surely WT Nervous Over This
by abbagail inon november 25, 2008, the wall street journal law blog and the wsj both posted articles about this... .
sixth circuit: vatican can be sued for sexual abuse .
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/11/25/sixth-circuit-vatican-can-be-sued-for-sexual-abuse/.
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abbagail
On November 25, 2008, the Wall Street Journal Law Blog and the WSJ both posted articles about this...
SIXTH CIRCUIT: VATICAN CAN BE SUED FOR SEXUAL ABUSE
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/11/25/sixth-circuit-vatican-can-be-sued-for-sexual-abuse/
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In a landmark ruling yesterday, the Sixth Circuit concluded that the Vatican could be held liable for negligence in sexual-abuse cases filed in the U.S. It is the first time a circuit court reached that conclusion, and the opinion is considered a breakthrough by those allegedly abused by priests. Here’s the WSJ story: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122756420187954231.html
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U.S. COURT ALLOWS ABUSE CASE vs. VATICAN
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122756420187954231.html
A federal appeals court has permitted a lawsuit over alleged sexual abuse to proceed against the Vatican, creating potential liability for the seat of the Roman Catholic faith for the activities of Catholic clergy in the U.S.
Monday's ruling, issued by the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, marks the first time a court at so high a level has recognized that the Vatican could be liable for the negligence in sexual-abuse cases brought in the U.S.
The ruling is seen as a breakthrough...
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Surely the WT must be nervous about this. If the big bad Vatican can be sued for pedo abuse cases that occurred in the USA, then there should be no holds barred from anyone abused in the USA by JWs not being able to sue the big bad Watchtower for the same type offenses.
Too many duped Catholics responded to the WSJ Law Blog saying it was the INDIVIDUAL priests who were guilty, not the Vatican (sound familiar?) Pfffff! Like the Vatican/Watchtower did not give orders from the top dogs to just move those pervs around to other churches/KH's rather than hanging the pedos out to dry with Johnny Lawman!
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Why the hey did we not WALK away in 1995?? the gen. thing
by oompa ini remember arguing with a bethel elder friend of mine during a long ride to an assembly about the"new light" in 1995....that the generation of 1914 is not the "this generation" that jesus referred to: .
(luke21:32)32 truly i say to you, this generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.
yep....pretty damm simple to me for 45 years...the generation that sees all the "signs" will not die before armageddon....thus we honest hearted ones pleaded with our back calls, or return visits to study with us before it is too late!....the time is soooo short, cause these 1914 folk are gettin damm old!....hurry in and be saved!.
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Glad I was already 5-years-out by 1995, as I think I would have been highly disturbed, distressed, ticked! I mean 1914 was THE BIG "anchor for our souls" not to mention THE BIGGIE talking point at the doors! By removing it, it would have seemed that the end was then "nowhere in sight."
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Robert Greenwald Documentaries
by frankiespeakin ini really think his are great so i will post a few:.
unconstitutional - the war on our civil liberties 68 min - may 28, 2006 - (117 ratings) -- rate:.
video.google.comunconstitutional: the war on our civil liberties, is the third in a series of public interest pictures films that follows unprecedented: the 2000 presidential election and ...unconstitutional: the war on our civil liberties, is the ...watch this video on video.google.comvideo from video.google.com robert greenwald and jeremy scahill testify on war profiteering 65 min - may 14, 2007 - (11 ratings) -- rate:.
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Arrrgh, I forgot about the truck w/no tire! Yes!
Another thing that got me was seeing the rows and rows of big silver shiny $30,000-each-SUVs lined up for the pleasure of War Profiteer Corporate Employees.... and I just remembered that luxury resort where they get to go stay and play... the finest food, suites, the works...
Cheney and his buddies, Halliburton...
Bush and his buddy, Blackwater...
CACI...
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WhiteDove:
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Sooo...Dr's out there, what could have caused something-cardial tamponade? Stress? Must be physical stress because J didn't have it at such a degree before being put on the wooden structure-most-likely-to-be-a-cross.
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I'm no doctor, but about two years ago I read a neat article on the subject by an M.D., and his article was written back in 1972, if you want details about what killed Jesus exactly, etc., here's the title/link:
THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS
A medical exposition on the death of Jesus Christ
By C. Truman Davis, M.D., M. S.
New Wine Magazine, 12/72
http://members.tripod.com/crossbearer-brian/id69.htm
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As for wearing a cross I went looking for one a few years ago, never could find what I was hoping...
A gold cross with a gold trumpet criss-crossed over the front of it...
The Cross of Christ & The Trump of God...
Because the former makes me eligible for the latter...
And when the trump of God sounds, I'm outta here. ;-)
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Robert Greenwald Documentaries
by frankiespeakin ini really think his are great so i will post a few:.
unconstitutional - the war on our civil liberties 68 min - may 28, 2006 - (117 ratings) -- rate:.
video.google.comunconstitutional: the war on our civil liberties, is the third in a series of public interest pictures films that follows unprecedented: the 2000 presidential election and ...unconstitutional: the war on our civil liberties, is the ...watch this video on video.google.comvideo from video.google.com robert greenwald and jeremy scahill testify on war profiteering 65 min - may 14, 2007 - (11 ratings) -- rate:.
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abbagail
I've got his IRAQ FOR SALE dvd... well done, it will make your gut ache when you see the greed and waste! Not to mention some of the stories from the soldiers themselves... like the guy telling about the corporate laundry services ripoff!!! Grrr! I also loved the end where Greenwald and his staff called and emailed the Greedy Corporations they covered in the movie, calling them repeatedly for a comment over a month's time, but they couldn't get a peep out of any of them.
$1 DVD Project, you can get bunches of them to spread around.
When I visited Greenwald's website awhile back, there was one that sounded heartbreaking about Guiliani not giving the NY firemen new radios that were sorely needed LONG before 9/11!
And thanks for posting those others... would like to check out the one re: Civil Liberties! Yowza, and Amen!
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Australian Premiere of new James Bond movie full of Witnesses and Elders???
by Witness 007 inyes it was choke full of witnesses even the brother giving the public talk on sunday, so for a ma 15+ rating with lots of violent killings why were they there?
and sooooo friendly to us with the "love bombing" ......my wife sort of falls for it but i just want to chew my own foot off and run......i was the 007 legendary "love bomber" no one escaped my puppy dog eyes!
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Ha! So the JWs still frequent the movies, eh? ;-)
In my JW day it was Rocky -- and the elder with us was jumping up and down in the theater going nutzo over Rocky beating the guy up.
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Appropriate attire for females................?
by Vachi 8 He Is inso i went to pick my aunt up from the diamond lane pick up point on wednesday and i ask her if her witness buddy is going to pick her up.
she says "no i don't want to call her because i'm going home to change and that'll make her late.
" so i chime in "why don't you wear what you have on?
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PS: OK in God's eyes... now as for the elders, that's another matter... and that's who she has to submit to in the KH... their ideas and interpretations... not to mention the fact everybody else will stare at her and talk about her for wearing pants as that is a "no no" in JW land...
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Appropriate attire for females................?
by Vachi 8 He Is inso i went to pick my aunt up from the diamond lane pick up point on wednesday and i ask her if her witness buddy is going to pick her up.
she says "no i don't want to call her because i'm going home to change and that'll make her late.
" so i chime in "why don't you wear what you have on?
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Ooops Vachi8... she'll come back at you with this scripture, so be ready freddy:
(NKJV) Deuteronomy 22:5 -- "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment, for all who do so [are] an abomination to the LORD your God.:
From the WT's NWT Bible: "No garb of an able-bodied man should be put upon a woman, neither should an able-bodied man wear the mantle of a woman; for anybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah your God."
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The WT mostly uses OT verses to brainwash JWs, but if she realized Christians who are IN CHRIST have FREEDOM of conscience in these "light weight matters," she would realize it is OK to wear a pantsuit.
Galatians 5:1 -- :It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery."
Try that last scripture on her and see if it helps.
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