surely their version of purgatory
jookbeard
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What is the benifits to living forever?
by Jayk incan anyone give me a valid reason for it?
growing old is a drag.
the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
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Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)
by rulehayl inhi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.
my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.
she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.
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jookbeard
the sad thing is about these kind of posts is that they have already made their minds up, she has already stated she wont be attending her brothers birthday party is echoing jw speak about the negativity of them, just think of the look on her brothers face if she turned up to his party and genuinely looked like she meant it, she's be a hundred times better than the kill joy, sanctimonious jw's she is mixing with, why be a martyr? enjoy your life, value the family unit, anything is better than what they offer.
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A WTF Moment While In the WTS
by Searching inhas anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".
for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.
it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.
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jookbeard
during the WACO siege in early 1903 I really began to do some deep research into their doctrines, nothing stood up to scrutiny, 1914, other timeline predictions they'd made, Armageddon, the Resurrection,the time of the end, the slave being appointed as the mouthpiece etc,I just thought its all madness, a pointless waste of everyone's time and energy, this life saving message is in the hands of these strange people trudging around the town walking endlessly for hours doing nothing but gossiping, I had faded, I was done.
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"not doing well spiritually"
by Introvert 2 inworking late tonight i just thought this up : whenever we used to hear someone say " so and so is not doing well spiritually™ " or "not doing well in the truth™ " what it really means is they aren't doing well climbing the wtbts's corporate ladder or doing their beck and call following the herd cult thingy.
been brought up before but had to share..feel free to add..
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jookbeard
its a great label isnt it, I was tarnished with a label of " he may have been in the truth but was never part of it" in my JC, I used to like "running ahead of the organisation, or he is not showing humility" other words used to judge someone are "chided or rebuked"
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Free Minds Web Site
by garyneal inanyone know what has happened to freemind.org website?
it's still up but it looks like a shell of the site i remember back five or six year years ago.
if i am not mistaken, i think randy may have taken ill over the years.
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jookbeard
Randy's work was brilliant when he set up Bethel Ministries later Freeminds , I was hooked reading each journal, my own testimony was printed! I know he's suffered health issues though.
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Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)
by rulehayl inhi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.
my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.
she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.
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jookbeard
dont worry your little self Rulhayl about Christmas parties, jeehovah really isnt interested , the organisation you are involved with were very happily celebrating them and birthday parties back in the day, and another thing you say you are a "bible student" studying the bible, that is not strictly true is it? you are studying a book, and I wouldn't mind betting the bible is very seldom used, let me give you a little tip, learn to read the bible without any additional material with it, read it on its own, also when you resume your bible study ask if you can have the study just using the bible and see what the jw's say, you may learn a few things. Those seven men you speak of have the blood of thousands on their hands, dont think for one second they are seven humble men upholding the rules of jeehovah, you couldn't be further from the truth, these so called rules that you mention have changed countless times over the decades,you seen the news items on child abuse that this organisation has been complicit in covering up? it really is endemic, you might want to look at The Australian Royal Commission enquiry, The Candice Conti court case, the recent BBC news, the BBC Panorama programme Suffer Little Children,(silentlambs.org) in the meantime jwfacts.com is an excellent recourse material that you should be looking at.
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Charles Manson Is Dead
by Bangalore inhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/obituaries/charles-manson-dead.html.
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jookbeard
I think a good few years on death row followed by the electric chair for him and his followers would have been the best way to deal with him and his followers. I was watching an interview with Susan Atkins who I believed plunged the knife into Sharon Tate and even though she had converted to Christianity in jail had been a model prisoner etc she still seemed to be unable to be truly remorseful for that horrendous act of evil, their subsequent behaviour before and during the trial was almost as sickening, any wonder she was continually refused parole, she died of brain cancer, and an amputated leg in 2002, the other two are greying old ladies and lets hope they die in jail also.
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Angry the BBC covered J.W. child abuse on the national TV news at 1pm but not 6pm or 10pm
by Isambard Crater indid the j.w lawyers gag the bbc or something?
not even newsnight covered it.
it was given 3 minutes every hour on the 24-hour bbc news channel though i guess..
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jookbeard
plastered all over the website, the company I worked for yesterday had an internal monitor showing segments of all kinds of things related to the company but the BBC headline on it was visible on it.
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jw deny rumours moving UK HQ to Chelmsford project has collaspe
by Aleph inhttp://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-deny-rumours-uk-headquarters/story-27899763-detail/story.html.
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jookbeard
Formerbrother; there are no underground bunkers, there will be no printing or bookbindery its all coming from Selters, Chelmsford will be an expensive white elephant riddled with errors that will have to be rectified like what happens on almost every construction project your lot undertake, it will be nothing more than a care home and will provide accommodation for the elites,your organisation is still selling off KH's Bethel homes worldwide while they consolidate the terrible growth around the world, the celestial chariots wheels have fallen off! apathy has spread to your own people like a gangrene and the general public dont want to hear a hate filled doomsday message anymore.
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discussion w/ Barbara G. Harrison today
by Dogpatch ini just got off the phone with author barbara grizzuti harrison (visions of glory; italian days, etc.
) who is currently living in brooklyn and has serious health problems.
she is now 67, but is very mentally alert and still has an excellent sense of humor!
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jookbeard
RIP , she must have passed away not long after the OP.