I cant imagine a Thursday meeting bereft of The Instruction Talk, Written Review and talk no 2,3,4 and 5, they even wised up to the fact that the TMS was doing the exact opposite of what it was originally planned; making good public speakers and gosh I've heard so much mind numbing hopeless public speaking from the platform of the KH over the years to last me a billion lifetimes, LOL. JoeyJoJo 100% agree with you.
jookbeard
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Not training speakers/teachers any more?
by eyeslice2 innot having attended any meetings since about 2001, for reasons of safety (sounds a bit dramatic but i don't like my wife being out on her own late at night where we live now), i have started accompanying her to the mid-week meeting.. when i was young, the ministry school and service meeting were central to training brothers to take the lead.
you were assigned instruction talks, then if you cut it, you moved pretty rapidly to public talks - a full 55 mins at the time.
i was just 18 years old when i gave my first public talk and this was a first step to moving rapidly through the ranks.
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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .
ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.
i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.
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jookbeard
the early 1990's, a born in had a walkabout phase on my teens got interested again. baptised in the late 1980's, married in 1990 (huge mistake) and during the Waco siege my interest was aroused with the media focusing on cults and sects and I began to research, I was done , by 1993 my fade started but did attend the memorial that year my last ever, our marriage continued to deteriorate and we divorced in 1995, moved away, new career and life was starting all over again, dabbled in a little bit of evangelical Christianity but it simply wasn't for me, been an atheist ever since and never set foot in a KH since, and as some have said during the last year of my miserable marriage i really did hit rock bottom, my mental state was something I needed to salvage and luckily I did.
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Kenneth Richmond - Wrestler and former Circuit Overseer Dies
by eyeslice ini was only young but i do remember ken and his wife (valentina) being our co. he was a mountain of a man but it would appear from the bbc obituary he was a man of peace.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/lastword.shtml .
olympic wrestler and actor who became the last of the men who struck the symbolic j. arthur rank movie gong has died aged 80. .
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jookbeard
My old man visited his cong in the late 1980's as the visiting speaker , Woking in Surrey, we met briefly, I was always led to believe he was a competition body builder not a wrestler
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Lack of zeal
by road to nowhere ini hear rumbling about the rank and file not having the same zeal they had when new.. lets see: door to door at the time least likely to find someone.
waste of a whole morning.
isolated.
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jookbeard
I watched my zeal waver and dwindle away into inactivity and atheism,I was very aware of it, it was a self monitoring process, but secretly quite enjoyable, and to think I was praised for my zeal,enthusiasm and public speaking LOL
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Sexual Morality In The Old Testament Differs From That In The New Testament
by AlanF inconservative christians like the jehovah's witnesses often claim that, like the new testament, the old testament forbids all sexual relations outside marriage, including relations between unmarried people.
that is not quite true.
to see that patriarchal and israelite culture adhered to a different standard, we must first understand just how the old testament treats marriage, sexuality and related items.. the old testament view of women as property.
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jookbeard
I wonder whatever happened to AlanF? the amount of time and energy he put into his work here can never be commended enough
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How Many Here Are Estranged From Your Family Because Of The Witnesses?
by minimus indo your jw relatives still talk to you?
are you now not very close?
are you avoided?
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jookbeard
only my hard nosed sister left haven't spoken to her in over a decade, still shunned
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What Did You Do With All Your Meeting Clothes?
by minimus ini literally had dozens of suits.
i still have more dress clothes than anyone i know.
i did give some suits and clothing away and to be honest, i still like wearing a nice suit.. brothers and sisters, are all your “ meeting clothes” still in your closet?
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jookbeard
I had some nice smutter, I wore my Hugo Boss wedding suit for a while when I was a R&F dub, but that was 29 years ago and I was a 32inch waist, even if I'd had kept that stuff none of it would have fitted me now!
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2020 Memorial Talk points for "interested persons" to raise.
by The Fall Guy in1) "what jesus gave was equal to what adam had lost—a perfect human life.".
jesus said that he came as a ransom, (matthew 20:28) but according to jw dogma, jesus' ransom gained far more than what was lost – 144,000 immortal king/priests in heaven to be precise!
adam was never going to produce such super-human offspring!
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jookbeard
the spiritual submarines, they surface once a year for the memorial
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How Much of the WT Teaching Did You Believe?
by Ding insome people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".
i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.
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jookbeard
a very small percentage, I thought naively that were were some genuinely well qualified Hebrew boffins in HQ that could interpret the more complicated biblical doctrine and for a short time it interested me, but the biggies were the destruction of all non jw's at Armageddon, the 1914 Generation never sat well with me nor did the blood ban,the original sin the serpent deceiving Eve to this day just does not make any sense, its an insult to the intelligence, if God worked hard on this project of creating the Garden of Eden putting two perfect humans into it why compromise all the hard work? they were destined to fail the tests, its stupidity,nonsense,madness,and the "sovereignty" issue how much more suffering do we need to see, children/babies being murdered,people freezing to death on the streets,famine,etc how much longer FFS? its madness,insanity,a perverted voyeuristic,angry all powerful being sitting in the heavens watching all this depravity? words cant do this lunacy justice, when I was a young 21 year old getting baptised in 1988 I was mainly interested in the social scene and meeting chicks, just a social club really, by the very early 1990's and the vast amount of research that I had engaged in I was done, I was out.
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Matt Dillahunty From The Atheist Experience vs A Jehovah's Witness
by pale.emperor inthis was cringe worthy, and yet hilarious to watch.
i'm sensing that this was a person studying with jws because she's so bad at defending the very basics.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0rcmjczeb8.
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jookbeard
he's great