I'm so moved by this experience that on my next visit to the Kingdom Hall, I'm going to stuff a dead chicken into the contribution box with a note tied around it's neck saying "Sorry I didn't have time to sell it"
JustUs
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Could This Be the Most Repellent Watchtower ....Ever?
by metatron inyou'll be getting the aug. 1 watchtower soon.
on it's rear cover, it has the following article:.
"the branch office of jehovah's witnesses in nigeria recently received a letter that, in part.
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Which One Lie Hurt You The Most About Jehovahs Witnesses?
by shamus inwhich one teaching really hurt you when you found out that it was not true?
my number one thing is finding out that the name "jehovah" was not in the bible like it was in the new world translation (tm).
christians did not call god "jehover" "jehovah" or by his first name, no more than you would call your father by his first name when you were a child.
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While I feel I've pretty much shaken off the deception this organization preaches as gospal, the lie that continues to hurt is the lie my only child and ex-wife believe. That lie is that they are better off keeping a distance from me and my leanings toward apostate thinking. The lie that if they listen to the "slave" and avoid me I might somehow, some way, "return to Jehovah" and avoid destruction at Armageddon. My child is my life. I've lost my child to a lie.
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What Did You Find To Be The Most Confusing Belief Of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses certainly have some unique beliefs and some are very, very confusing.
anything that you never quite understood?
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JustUs
I grew up in Pittsburgh Pa. where Russel started this insane religion. I was told as a kid that our congregation had many of the annointed, 7 or 8 in a congregation of 30, because this was where the work got started. (the congregations were small then) I remember asking several of these annointed individuals at various times, how they "knew" they were selected to rule with Christ in heaven? I must point out that at the time I believed they were hand picked by Jesus as annointed ones, I just wanted to know how they knew. I would ask them when I worked with them in service, I would ask at the book study, I would ask anytime I had a chance to be alone with one of them. The answers were all pretty much the same. "You just know" was the most common response. I was always disappointed with the responses I got. I guess I wanted to hear that confirmation came in the form of "a dream" like Peter received when he needed his thinking enlightened,, or that Jehovah actually spoke to one of them, or "Holy Spirit" overwhelmed them and lightning flashed in front of them! A burning bush....anything. I needed it to be more than "You just know" One sister in particular elaborated a little more by telling me as a spirit annointed member of the "little flock" she became obsessed with "learning". She hungered like never before for truths from the "faithful and discreet slave" (Hey aren't you "the slave?") She couldn't read enough of the books and magazines. I remember thinking she did seem different, more spiritual. It wasn't until she entered a Catholic hospital for a necessary surgery, and said she came under attack by the demons in the Catholic hospital because she was of the annointed, and she saw the crucifix on the hospital wall begin to crawl up the wall, and across the ceiling, that I realized she was a whack job! (I didn't understand the effects of hospital drugs, and a predisposed mind, at the time)
Seroiusly though, as a young man, I wondered why she and all the others selected by God to rule in heaven with Christ weren't somehow more clearly identifiable than "You just know", and later in my life why these selected few had no input whatsoever in matters of "new light" from the slave when it came to ever changing doctrine. Seeds of doubt planted at such a young age that took nearly 50 years to blossom.
Better late ......than never
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Did Any Of You Ever Believe In The Explanations Of JW Prophecy?
by minimus inas a born and raised jw, i was taught that not only did we have the truth but we also had the keys to understanding of bible prophecy.
i was able to explain the gentile times timetable, the reason for 1914,etc.
but there came a time when i really came to appreciate that i had no real foundation for these "truths".
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I really appreciated Blondies input:
*** w97 8/15 16 Living for Today or for an Eternal Future? ***As events develop, though, our understanding of prophecy has become clearer. History shows that rarely, if ever, are divine prophecies fully understood before their fulfillment.
*** w81 3/1 29 The 'Faithful Slave' Gives "Food at the Proper Time" ***
The "slave" is not divinely inspired but continues to search the Scriptures and carefully scrutinize world events, as well as the situation of God’s people, so as to understand the ongoing fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Because of human limitations, at times there may be an incomplete or incorrect understanding of some matter that may require correction later.Challenge now what may be corrected later, and you will be subjected to the "hell hath no fury" mentality that instantly kicks in when it comes to defending Brooklyn from the "mature ones", and you will forever be marked as someone to watch and report on if you're caught engaging in that kind of devisive questioning. It happened to me when I asked why, if there are around 10,000 (at that time) of the "faithful and discreet slave class" still here on earth, why are only a few (10 -15 at headquarters) involved in dispensing "food at the proper time"?
Still don't have an answer to that one. What a load of crap.
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What's the worst sin that you knew a JW commited? Espec. Elders, Bethelites
by FreeofGuilt inthe po of my congregation was screwing another elders wife- i have more, but i wanna hear yours!
kristine
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JustUs
This happened about 35 years ago. I was very close to the family this happened to. They were given the privilege of preparing a meal for the visiting circuit overseer and district overseer, and the district overseer's wife during the district convention. The circuit overseer's wife had died a couple years before this incident, but he remained in the circuit work. The circuit overseer was staying in the home where the dinner was prepared, and the district overseer and his wife were staying in another witness home that was about a 30 minute car ride away. After dinner and some visiting, the district overseer asked the brother, an elder, whose family hosted the dinner, to drive him and his wife back to the home they were staying .The circuit overseer in the meantime excused himself by saying goodnight to all, and went upstairs to the bedroom they provided for him. The wife of the elder who prepared the dinner decided to wait up for her husband to return, so she went to the kitchen and started cleaning up the dishes. About 10 minutes after her husband and the district overseer left this sister was frightened half out of her wits, when the circuit overseer crept up behind her at the kitchen sink and wrapped his arms around her and began to attempt to kiss her while touching her breasts. She said she was horrified and couldn't speak. She began crying profusely as she turned around and attempted to block his advances with her forearms in his chest. Then he tried to calm her and told her Jehovah understands he has needs and that there were several sisters in the circuit that helped him in his time of need. At this point she ran from him and locked herself in the bathroom until her husband got home.
As soon as her husband walked through the door and learned what happened, he put the kids (who were in bed sleeping) and his wife in the car, and drove back to where the district overseer was staying. After telling the DO what happened, the brother who’s home the DO was staying at, and the DO followed the brother back to his home, went upstairs and talked to the circuit overseer, and led him out the door and put him up at a local motel. The next day at the district convention, the circuit overseer was noticeably missing from the program. In fact he wasn't used for any of the parts he was listed for in the program for the rest of the convention. The elder and his wife never heard another thing about this circuit overseer, or what (if anything) happened to him because of this incident. They asked my wife and I to never tell this story to anyone. We needed to protect Jehovah’s name from reproach. You know what? This is the first time I've told this story to anyone in 35 years. I'm happy it is on this forum.
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If you decided to try a church, which one would you try?and why?
by LyinEyes ini have been thinking of doing something i have wanted to for along time, just to see, that is go to a church.
i guess i am a little afraid , or nervous , more than anything, but i feel i ready to venture out there and see what it is about,,,,,,,,,,,lol, i might not stay , i just want to try it.. i just want to give it a chance and right now i have no reason why i shouldnt if i go in with my eyes open.
i dont know what religion to start with,,,,,,,,, i figure this may be a journey on finding what feels right to me, or it could end up i stay home and do my own worship , who knows.. i know there are many christains on this board and i would be interested in hearing why you choose the faith you did, if it is methodist, catholic, baptist, or other mainstream ones.. i am also interested in other forms of religion some have choosen, and why?
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CHURCH???? I DON' NEED NO STINKIN CHURCH
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Reconciling with Dad
by jws inas you may or may not know from previous posts, i am a born & raised jw who just drifted away (no df/da) from a father and two sisters who still keep the jw faith.
and while my father is aware that i have "apostate" beliefs of some kind, he prefers not to hear of it.
as a result, we still enjoy each other's company and nobody has "shunned" me.
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Hi jws,
I have a son living with his mother in another city. This poor kid works two jobs, pioneers, and attends college part ime. When he first became aware that I no longer accept the teachings of JW's as gospel, he became very distressed. I backed off because his mother warned me that my son is at an age where he would feel obligated to obey the WT direction, and shun me if I make waves and become DF'd or DA'd.
I have to admit though that I'm not entirely upset that he associates with the Witnesses. The organization for what it's worth, along with his mother and myself have given him a good moral base. He associates with people who have basically the same moral base, and for these reasons I've backed off.
Think about this, Jesus had a great deal of compassion for the people who were misled in his day, and a great deal of contempt for the religious leaders. He never blamed the sheep...he felt pity for them. This is where my entire hope is for my son, and his mother. I leave the matter in Gods hands.
One thing I do though is regularly compile articles from this site and others into folders that will be left to my son, should anything ever happen to me, that I believe someday he will be moved to examine, and perhaps then understand what I was trying to say all along. It's just a matter of time before this organization breaks apart because of internal dysfunctions. I truly believe this will happen, and hope I can be there to soften the blow my son will no doubt feel when it happens. Just some thoughts.
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DID CLARA GET JUSTICE?
by MYOHNSEPH ina dentist from houston, clara harris, was found guilty of murder and sentenced to twenty years yesterday, for running over her husband with her mercedes and killing him, in a fit of rage, after confronting him and his girlfriend in a local hotel.
now mrs. harris already knew about her husband's infidelity with the other woman, had even discussed with her husband how the two of them compared, and was apparently still trying to salvage their marriage.
but after the confrontation inside the hotel, she lost it and ultimately ran him over multiple times with her automobile, killing him.
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The way I see it...he should have known better. She told him when she married him there were bound to be a few "bumps" in the road of their journey through life!
This trail is soon to be a made for TV movie called "Forrest Speed Bump"
(humor borrowed from Jay Leno)
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Wall Street Journal on JWs
by teenyuck ini recently subscribed to the wall street journal online.
i found an editorial written by a senior editor, who was a jw!!.
article 2 of 14 .
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Let's not forget the GB loves the bad press. It's exploited automatically to the followers that they are indeed Gods people because of "persecution" from SATANS WORLD!.....how sad......
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What Was The 1st Thing That Made You Question?
by minimus inas a youngster raised in the "truth", i had my questions.
but anytime you ask a question that is unanswerable, you are told to just wait on jehovah.
as time passes, i believe that we store up a number of unanswerable questions that forces one to eventually think about everything.
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JustUs
I've felt for a very long time now that "somethings wrong here" when it came to the love we all were commanded to have for one another. I grew up in Pittsburgh Pa. and was very close to a lot of the "annointed".Not that that really means anything other than the fact that I have a history with the JW's of almost 50 years, and I did see and felt a lot of the warm Christian love I believe we are meant to share with each other, up until about 1975-1978. Then it seemed all hell broke loose. Backbiting, backstabbing,slander, gossip...you name it...it happened. I saw many good people suffer at the hands of incompetent elders, aggressive ministerial servants (elder wannabes) and some really hateful individuals. I saw elders go after other elders. Families suffer and told to wait on Jehovah to make terrible circumstances right. I watched as missionaries who are family, come home on visits bitching and complaining about other missionaries in the "home" who weren't doing their part. I received letters from others serving in faraway places, and sensed a general discontent with their station in life. I asked, and still ask...."where's the love?" What happened? Even sadder for me is watching my son, who lives with his mother in another city, pioneer, work two jobs, and go to college full time, while he "hurts" because I've slipped away from the "truth", and he's advised by those who "really love him" to accept the fact that one day he may have to turn his back on his father because his father (me) has turned his back on Jehovah. Yeah....where's the love?