jehovah the god of the hebrew scriptures treatment of his creation is questionable.. jesus (his son) of the greek scriptures only on one occasion lost his temper - in the temple w/the money changers.
otherwise he was kind and patient and compassionate for people.. how can this be?
why such a difference in personality if they are the same "person"?
By the way, someone here said that Moses murdered someone?
Why yes he did sister Juni. He saw the egyptians mistreating his brothers who were in slavery and he clubbed one of the mean bastards to death then ran off for fear he'd be squeeled on then ran in the wilderness and married a worldly Midianite woman who fathers name was Jeffro. Ain't you never watched the 10 commandments on TV?
Gumwebster elder
an invitation to any jws, ex-jws, faders, lurkers or readers: please wreck this if you can.
i trying to tackle a foundation doctrine of jws as simply as i possibly can.
if anyone has a way to further simplify this, please offer suggestions.. john 10:16"and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.".
Anyone with half a brain who reads the N.T. can plainly see that in 1935 the 144,000 who will live in heaven was complete and that there was no more room in heaven and god gave all these stragglers who loved him after 1935 a home of their own on earth.........so don't listen to the apostate Auldsoul cuz he hates Jehovah.
Gumrightous
jehovah the god of the hebrew scriptures treatment of his creation is questionable.. jesus (his son) of the greek scriptures only on one occasion lost his temper - in the temple w/the money changers.
otherwise he was kind and patient and compassionate for people.. how can this be?
why such a difference in personality if they are the same "person"?
I know the answer Juni cuz I'm a real smart bastard.
God was bi-polar and had a split personality. For thousands of years he hid the fact that he was also Jesus and then around two thousand years ago he went into his manic mode and told everyone he had a son and that he was also his son and they hung him cuz they thought he was nutty and so alot of people found a new god that wasn't as nutty and his name was Mohammed and the majority followed him to this day.
Gumwickopedia
....at least according to jehovahs witnesses.. if a sister at the kingdom hall suspect her hubby is playing naughty with another woman and she finds her hubbys car has been parked at anothers womans house all night, then she can write a letter stating she is sure that adultry has taken pace and divorce him, and he is then disfellowshipped, and she still remains in good standing..............but,.
if a child tells their parents and the brothers at the kingdom hall that they were molested sexually by a brother at the hall, and this accused brother denies this accusation and there is no other witnesses to this claim, then he is veiwed as not guilty and remains in good standing.. why do you suppose the accused adulterer is treated differently.....even if he denies that he commited adultry?.
gumby.
By the way, how come it was ok back then for a man to have several wives, but women could only have one husband?
Because god is a man and he wrote the bible dammit! Women are sluts and men are studs and don't you forget it......scullymeister!
So if you slip up and fool around with a member of the opposite sex, that was grounds for a divorce, but you can shag your dog till the cows come home and that's somehow different.
Mary, I've told you more than once to quit tellin people about my faults. I love my dog and that makes all the difference in the world.......and you tell your cousin Billy to quit touchin you down there or I'll kick his freakin arse!
Junebug,
Perhaps since the org. is run by very ancient men who grew up at a time when "children should be seen and not heard",
I'm sure this has alot to do with it and you make some good points.
The problem is, they apply "the two witness rule" when it comes to a brother being accused of Pedophilia, yet they DO NOT apply it if a brother denies he commited adultry, rather because there are witnesses to a brothers car being parked all night at sister slutties house, they play god and judge a mans own testimony as false and pay homage to a parked car of his. If my car is parked in front of a bar all night, does it mean I got drunk off my arse?
Gumby
....at least according to jehovahs witnesses.. if a sister at the kingdom hall suspect her hubby is playing naughty with another woman and she finds her hubbys car has been parked at anothers womans house all night, then she can write a letter stating she is sure that adultry has taken pace and divorce him, and he is then disfellowshipped, and she still remains in good standing..............but,.
if a child tells their parents and the brothers at the kingdom hall that they were molested sexually by a brother at the hall, and this accused brother denies this accusation and there is no other witnesses to this claim, then he is veiwed as not guilty and remains in good standing.. why do you suppose the accused adulterer is treated differently.....even if he denies that he commited adultry?.
gumby.
....at least according to Jehovahs Witnesses.
If a sister at the Kingdom Hall suspect her hubby is playing naughty with another woman and she finds her hubbys car has been parked at anothers womans house ALL NIGHT, then she can write a letter stating she is sure that adultry has taken pace and divorce him, and he is then disfellowshipped, and she still remains in good standing..............but,
if a child tells their parents and the brothers at the Kingdom Hall that they were molested sexually by a brother at the hall, and this accused brother denies this accusation and there is no other witnesses to this claim, then he is veiwed as not guilty and remains in good standing.
Why do you suppose the accused adulterer is treated differently.....even if he denies that he commited adultry?
Gumby
do you believe water witching actually works?
i had lunch with an ex-dub friend yesterday who told me that many years ago, when she was still a witness, her landlord's son came over (they rented a farm) and he showed her that it did work.
she had been fully prepared to say "ha!
I always thought it was strange how the demunz were so eager to make sure the farmers had water.....
Excellent point!
It's also funny how the demunz tell phycics information that's helpful to the police or family members.
If demunz are bent on nothing but evil, then why do they also seem bent on doing helpful things for others?
Gumby.....who keeps forgetting that Satan tranforms himself into an angel of light to fool people so they won't serve Jehovah and will believe in evil things like water witching
do you believe water witching actually works?
i had lunch with an ex-dub friend yesterday who told me that many years ago, when she was still a witness, her landlord's son came over (they rented a farm) and he showed her that it did work.
she had been fully prepared to say "ha!
Dowsing for water goes back thousands of years as shown in cave art..... and is even done in our time by some to find bodies, downed planes, etc.
When a 400-foot hole comes up dry, it can drain the pocketbook some $10,000 bucks and many new property owners are eager to hedge their bets on a dowser before the digging begins.
I also did it on our propert when I was a kid with wires bent and each wire was put in a coke bottle with one bottle held in each hand to find a broken water line that fed the horses.......and the wires crossed at the place where the underground pipe was everytime......otherwise we didn't have a clue where the pipe was exactly.
Gumdowser
what god do 'we' believe in?
i am a believer at the moment i think.... .
firstly we are directed away from questioning just how god came into existance - why?
Don't listen to that poster Prostate....he's an apostate.
Gordy says,
Did you ever have to take some action that broke your heart and may have seemed cruel to them
Gee, this seems like a good analogy Gordy. Let's see if you would allow done to your child what god allows done to his ( which number in the billions)
Would you,
......let your daughter be raped, or let your wife be tortured, or let your son die of treatable cancer, or let your granparents be robbed and beaten to death..........so that in the long run they'd learn a good lesson from it that would benifit them?
Tell me exactly how anything like that would benifit a person gordy? Would your daughter look at her rape as something to learn from? If so, what would she learn from it? Or would she rather be haunted by it?
...and, why do you try to compare a hardship we'd let our kids go through - to the millions who have been tortured to death....such as burned at the stake? Is your analogy even close to fair?
Gumby
which child is wiser?
while starting a hunt for easter eggs one child runs to a big tree and finds nothing then that childs brother says, go look under that rock i promise youll find one there!
the child throws down their basket and says, i give up!
If you haven’t found God, maybe it’s because you haven’t looked in the right places, looked hard enough, or looked long enough.
So, if one is clueless as to what god is, then if he/she looks a little harder, and looks in different places, then they will eventually find him?
Where would you suggest that I might look that I haven't already looked gordy?
Tell me what place to look in that I haven't already looked in if you don't mind.
I've already noticed that life is in abunance to the depths of the earth and all of it seems to have it's place and survives with conscience life.....but I still get no contact I know of with god........just a realisation a creator exist/existed to make the things I see. Is that what god is to you, a god who shows you what he made when you make an effort to see what he's made? Even if he audibly told you he made these things.......how do you suppose he'd explain natures bad side?
If your answer is from the bible, then how do those without one know god as well as you do?
Gumgordygitter
i called the hospital a few minutes ago and sparky is currently in surgery.
i am going to by on my way home from work and say hi.
should i bring some flowers?
the surgery went well; no complications
..........{{{{{{{ sparkster}}}}}}}
Now yer clean as a whistle
Gumby
