Eeeeeewwwww.....another asswoopin by Mary! Nice job
I'd forgotten some of the Mormons weirdass beliefs.....thanks!
Gumby Smith
with interest i find that once again the lds faith is cast as the twin tower of mordor to the watchtower orthanc.
we are not the same my precious.
read these quotes below to see just how different we really are.
Eeeeeewwwww.....another asswoopin by Mary! Nice job
I'd forgotten some of the Mormons weirdass beliefs.....thanks!
Gumby Smith
with interest i find that once again the lds faith is cast as the twin tower of mordor to the watchtower orthanc.
we are not the same my precious.
read these quotes below to see just how different we really are.
Nice find DD.
So the tracts you found are 150 odd years old. Cool. As an additional help see if you can give me something more up to date?
Qcmbr,
Your comment sounds like it came straight out of the mouth of a witness......and you say you two aren't similar?
If god guides the mormons, then why did they state what they did in these "older tracts" that are now "old light"? God doesn't change does he?
Dream on my friend.....the Mormons are every bit as wacky as the dubs are.
Gumby
as all faithful witnesses to jehovah the most high god well knowjohn 3:13 ).
does anyone have any idea where enoch went.....since he never died?.
the author of the letter to the hebrews says "by faith enoch was transferred, that he should not see death, and was not found, because god had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased god well.
Most think that heaven is the realm in the spirit world, where the angels and God are.. but it is actually IMO, the place with God. Which could be as a spirit or a human.
So, unless one dies, he can't be with god? Sounds like the bible god is a bad planner to me. I guess if our first parents hadn't sinned....nobody would "be with" god...at least as are the angels. We'd have to settle on prayer to talk with god had our first parents not sinned. I guess it's a good thing Adam and Eve disobeyed since only death brings us within the realm of god along with gods son and the angels. Eating of the tree of life would have meant life eternal on earth....not "with" god.
Clammer, maybe if I don't make heaven, I can at least polish up a few before they get raptured so high I can't reach them.
Gumby
friendship comes in all stages, shapes, and sizes, from the very close, as brothers, built over a lifetime, to the budding kind that has only a few months or a year or two.
i have been friends with sam (fictious name) for about seven years.
we are not real close friends, but have a good quality relationship that is mostly confined to the office.. recently, sam told me that he had an issue with a female agent who tried to get him fired.
Heck, I'd marry this fella if'n I was single.
today, after lunch, two jws stopped by to offer us the latest magazines.
my husband was the one who answered the door, i was getting ready for work.
he invited them in for a good talk, but they refused.
If they really wanted to exert themselves, they could have tracked down our cards.
Typical story.
The witnesses can't count their time with people like you and hubby. They have never been ones to "leave the 99 in search for the lost sheep". They are losing thousands because of this same attitide as they feel their time spent in the ministry means more to Jehovah than gaining back someone who has gone stray. Your fortunate that you'll not be at a family loss if you are DFed.
Gumby
as all faithful witnesses to jehovah the most high god well knowjohn 3:13 ).
does anyone have any idea where enoch went.....since he never died?.
the author of the letter to the hebrews says "by faith enoch was transferred, that he should not see death, and was not found, because god had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased god well.
Remember, the Bible is not a single book but an anthology of works from different theological and eschatological standpoints.
....and remember, only the books that seemed to harmonize with each other were chosen to make up the canon. Had the books Leolaia mentioned been included in the canon, we'd be a helluva lot more confused than we are right now on this issue....and every other issue.
Funny why a god who gave man a book to guide his life by, couldn't do so without people not being able to make any sense of it nor find harmonization within it's pages.
Thanks to all who looked into this and commented about it.......but like so many other bible questions, we can all never agree to it's meaning of many scriptures.
*wonders if he'll be able to set up nutsack shop in heaven*
hguoht neve otatop yllaer gninettaf i era evol spihc yeht.. the box above contains a whole.. the box on top contains no "meaning" as is.
it must be rearranged to fit our commonly agreed standards.. if we do take the whole of it and rearrange the structure without dropping any of the molecules (word forms) a thought can be communicated.. 1.wholeness, in and of itself, is not useful when communication according to a standard is sought.. 2.in order to pull data out of a whole structure (such as the top box) we must isolate the elements and rearrange them.
if we find a pattern we must further apply standards of logic in order to derrive sense.. 3. the wow!
Don't listen to Terry Jeffro......he's just jealous cuz he has girl boobs
as all faithful witnesses to jehovah the most high god well knowjohn 3:13 ).
does anyone have any idea where enoch went.....since he never died?.
the author of the letter to the hebrews says "by faith enoch was transferred, that he should not see death, and was not found, because god had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased god well.
Deb......your gonna burn in the Lake of Fire for callin god a girl. He's a guy cuz Moses saw him and Abraham fed him(Gen 18)....ya big silly
At Jo 3:13 the word does not just mean "going up" but "going up while once being up there" No one, according to the claim made by Jesus, has been in heaven and come down here and gone back up there having completed His task
Moggy, my bible reads a bit different than yours. Jesus clearly showed that nobody other than him has ever gone to heaven and he said nothing about one who has been there and came back. Do you have a refrence for the word ascend?
Elijah was another who is believed to have gone to heaven.
as·cend (
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v.as·cend·ed, as·cend·ing, as·cends v.intr. 1. To go or move upward; rise. See Synonyms at rise. 2. To slope upward. 3. To rise from a lower level or station; advance: ascended from poverty to great wealth; ascend to the throne. 4. To go back in time or upward in genealogical succession. v.tr. 1. To move upward upon or along; climb: ascended the mountain. 2. To succeed to; occupy: ascended the throne upon the death of her father.
Gumby
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/11/16/bashkircannibal.shtml.
woman gets 11 years for cooking boyfriend and feeding him to guestscreated: 16.11.2006 13:29 msk (gmt +3), updated: 14:20 msk.
a court in the russian internal republic of bashkortostan has passed an 11-year sentence to a woman who killed her boyfriend with an axe and then cooked him in a variety of dishes which she fed to her guests at a new year party.. .
I wonder who?!?! Now what did you do with it?? Roast it or smoke it??
Ewwwww, don't answer that!!
Well, just cuz you told me not to answer....I'm gonna answer.
I ain't never smoked family jewels before cuz I heard they can grow in your throat and choke you to death.....besides, I already have an adams apple.
Gumglands
as all faithful witnesses to jehovah the most high god well knowjohn 3:13 ).
does anyone have any idea where enoch went.....since he never died?.
the author of the letter to the hebrews says "by faith enoch was transferred, that he should not see death, and was not found, because god had transferred him; for before his transference he had the witness that he had pleased god well.
Why assume he went to heaven? The scripture does not say where he was transferred to.
Cuz there's nowhere else for Jehovah to put the guy.......Mr.Warlock!!!!! If god put him somewhere.....where do you suppose he mighta put him? He wouldn't have put him all by his lonesome now would he? Maybe the lucky bastard turned Muslim and he got his 40 virgins that all them guys are after.
And no, I didn't read your response cuz it takes too long for that thread to load up.....at least for me. Hey, did you ever find a cure for your scabbies yet 'ol bud?
Gumby