Posts by StAnn

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Which bible translation do you prefer?

by digderidoo in

i have decided to buy myself a bible.. i have a new world translation but the large print version, so i tend not to use it.

after reading crisis of conscience i have decided to discard this translation anyway, but at a loss as to what translation to use.

i also have a few old king james bibles but the language is unreadable to me.

StAnn

Meeting Junkie,

I'm Catholic so I have the New American Bible (Study Bible) because it's the one approved by the Church for use in the liturgy. They approve other bibles for use, like Jerusalem and Douay Rheims, but like to have uniformity in the liturgy. Unfortunately, I still have the NWT in my head, so I'm trying to read the same bible that I hear in Church in hopes it will replace the JW tapes in my head!

I really enjoy the study guides to the bible and to each book of the bible that is in the NAB. About half of the entire NAB is actually background, footnotes, and study material. I've learned a lot from them and, amazingly, they quote sources so you can do actual research in documents NOT produced by the Catholic Church. Imagine that.

I've also taken some classes on scripture through University of Dayton and my husband has taken some at Miami University (in Oxford, OH) and didn't find any conflict with the NAB, even though one of the classes my husband took at Miami U. was given by an evangelical scholar who edited several of the OT books of the NIV! (His name is Dr. Edwin Yamauchi.) Another class he took was given by a Jewish woman and it was about the Hebrew Bible. So far, we've not discovered any academic or scholastic problems with the NAB. I'm very antsy about that, given my experience with the NWT.

I'm jealous you found yours cheaply. My husband paid almost $100 for mine as a Christmas gift back in 2002.

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2008

by jefferywhat in

i have noticed, and posted a little bit about all the buzz surrounding this year.

there is a little bit of a whisper campaign going around that armageddon is coming this year.

from other posts i notice im not the only one who is seeing this, there is alot of "reminders" that we need to be obedient and trusting of the fds ( which i am of course), along with reminders to stock up and prepare for disasters etc they are really pointing to something.

StAnn

Anybody want to take up the subject that maybe the whole Adam and Eve story wasn't literal, thus negating any dates whatsoever based upon their alleged creation?

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nomoreguilt's wife...........My thoughts

by nomoreguilt in

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the pledge of allegiance is a promise or oath of alegiance to the united states and to its national flag.it is commonly recited in unison at public events, and especially in public school classrooms, where the pledge if often a morning ritual... ( when i was a child).. nomoreguilt and i... talk about the way we were raised alot.

him as a jehovah's withness and myself as a catholic.

back years ago as a young child in grade school, i remember a boy horrible teasing, taunting a younger boy that was waiting for the school bus.

StAnn

Hello and Welcome!

JW's do a lot of things solely to make them stand out as different than the rest of society. For instance, JW's don't have bulletin boards in their Kingdom Halls, they have information boards, because the "churches" pass out bulletins on Sundays and they don't want to be associated with the churches. They don't even have churches, they have Kingdom Halls, because they want to be different. We used to have a little overture between the last two verses of the songs we sang but that was stopped because the churches did that. We sang songs, not hymns, because the churches sing hymns. The entire blood issue isn't really one of biblical principles; it was invented as a way to allow JWs to martyr themselves for their faith. Judge Rutherford, the second president of the WTBTS, did every thing in his power to ensure the JW's stood out from all of the other religions, in an attempt to garner attention and perhaps sell more books. In addition to getting attention for the WTBTS, all of these practices serve the psychological function of isolating JW's from the rest of society, who will view them as freaks and avoid them. It is important to introduce the "freak factor" early into a child's life before he/she makes friends who might enlighten him/her as to the truth of God and the Bible. JW's don't want their kids having friends who aren't JW's, and turning them into pariahs is an effective way to do that and thus keep them from having their minds enlightened.

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Oh no, another horrible demonic movie!!!

by Robert7 in

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yep, the smurfs movie: http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/17/first-look-the-smurfs-movie/ .

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i can just see the talks & gossip around this one...

StAnn

Urban legend? That was no urban legend. One of the members of my cong. was there and saw it and she was one of the anointed, so she wouldn't lie!

No joke, she insisted it really happened.

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Southern Test.

by hillbilly in

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how i know i have entered the south... if i order "sweet tea" and the wait-staff does not point at the sugar and sweet-n-low on the table.. that's a high 90% indication i am in the "south".. florida may not always be the south... the paradox that comes from being as far east as it is south.

even ocala and winter haven are overun with michigan and new yorkers now days.. oklahoma is ok... some parts or southern... others , western buy so far i dont find many "yankees" around here.. parts of michigan may be in the south... during ww2 much of the south went up and stayed.

in some places you find grits easier than german sausage.

StAnn

Fair Mind, I'm in Ohio and they don't have jobs here. Don't know about the rest of the "North," although Ohio is technically in the midwest.

I lived in North Carolina for years and was treated like dirt because I was from the "North." I loved the state itself, thought it was beautiful, but just couldn't stand the people. The men were so rude and crude. I'd cross the street and have guys roll their windows down and holler, "Hey, baby," and stuff like that was gonna get them a date with me? Also, I was amazed at the mold and mildew that grew on the outsides of houses down there. People had to pressure wash their houses at least once a year to get it off. And the flying roaches really grossed me out.

I don't like banana and mayonnaise sandwiches. I like sauerkraut on my hot dogs, not cole slaw. I like chicken in my chicken and pastry, not just pastry cooked in chicken broth and falsely called chicken and pastry. I will not eat fried "side meat." However, I have learned to love barbecue cooked in eastern N.C. style sauce, one of God's greatest gifts to man. I think Bill Ellis Farm and Barbecue Restaurant in Wilson, NC, is heaven on Earth, or as Bill Ellis likes to dub it: from the squeal to the meal. Yum.

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nomoreguilt's wife has QUESTIONS........introduction

by nomoreguilt in

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throughout the course of our marriage, my new bride and i have often times discussed the bible and jw practices, etc.

she has been on here once before and this evening she wishes to venture here again.

i have to go to a high school reunion meeting, lol, and so i shall leave her to her own devices with all of you, my friends here.

StAnn

Hi, NMG-Gal. I was raised a JW and now I'm Catholic. When I tell my cradle Catholic friends about my experiences as a JW, their jaws drop to the floor. My husband doesn't "get it" when I get upset about JW things, like the most recent "new light." I think it's because he wasn't raised by a bunch of crazy JWs. Do you feel you're able to really understand your husband and what he's been through?

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How many of you Ex Jehovah's Witnesses married early and it was a disaster?

by isnrblog in

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what a common tale.

you marry early becasue you can't have sex.. i was married at 19 and divorced at 50. the only thing that held it together was our involvement in the jw's.

otherwise it would have been over in less than 5 years.. my kids are not witnesses and have a terrible relationship with their mother, as she is always trying to shove it down their throats.. this is still happening.

StAnn

Yesidid,

Wow 50 years and love him more every day? What's your secret?

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How many of you Ex Jehovah's Witnesses married early and it was a disaster?

by isnrblog in

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friends

what a common tale.

you marry early becasue you can't have sex.. i was married at 19 and divorced at 50. the only thing that held it together was our involvement in the jw's.

otherwise it would have been over in less than 5 years.. my kids are not witnesses and have a terrible relationship with their mother, as she is always trying to shove it down their throats.. this is still happening.

StAnn

Oh, and BTW, yes, I married 6 weeks after I turned 18, divorced at 24. He was and is an idiot. The only thing we had in common was the religion.

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How many of you Ex Jehovah's Witnesses married early and it was a disaster?

by isnrblog in

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friends

what a common tale.

you marry early becasue you can't have sex.. i was married at 19 and divorced at 50. the only thing that held it together was our involvement in the jw's.

otherwise it would have been over in less than 5 years.. my kids are not witnesses and have a terrible relationship with their mother, as she is always trying to shove it down their throats.. this is still happening.

StAnn

Actually, let me ask for some advice. My son is 24 and DF'd. He has a friend of the same age who is a JW in good standing, married to a pioneer. The friend is miserable, feels he married too young, and wants out of the JWs but knows it will mean a divorce. He's been hanging around my son's house because my son is single and there are lots of girls about (DS has two single male roommates, also!). DS thinks there may be cheating already occurring and he thinks it's his friend's desperate way to get his wife to let him out of the marriage and the religion all in one whack.

Both of them have JW parents who are elders/pioneers. This will not be pretty.

I wantd the boy to actually sit down and have an honest heart-to-heart with his wife about his misgivings about the JWs. Who knows, maybe she's dissatisfied too. He's afraid to do that. He assumes she won't listen.

What advice can I give this boy and my son, who feels caught in the middle?

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Are the 30 minute public talks becoming SERVICE talks?

by truthseeker in

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if you take all the fluff out of a public talk, i,e.

the "state of this system of things," the bad news report, negative stats.

you're basically left with a service talk, aimed not at the public but the dubs.. i noticed that when the public talks were cut by 15 minutes what resulted was a 30 minute service talk or at the very least, a 30 minute local needs talk because all congregations seem to have the same problems.. these talks definitely seem to have a harder tone to them because you have all the counsel compressed into half an hour.. have any of you here who still attend noticed this?.

StAnn

They've cut the public talk to 30 minutes? When did that happen? Geez, they give them an outline. It's not like the "brother" giving the talk has to actually write it or anything. What happened? Were brothers filling in the time with real research and thoughtful observations? This is becoming less like a religion and more like an "organization meeting" all the time. Hmmmm.......