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  Nothing To Write, But Not Without Something to Say

  by AllTimeJeff in

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  hey all.

  i enjoyed my sabatical from our crazy little 5 feet of the cyber world.

  i remember coming on here, leaving jw's and having so much to say, so much to expose.

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  wobble

  I am kinda reaching the same place as you AT Jeff, the only reason I still read and post here is the hope that someone will wake up because of the way we express our discoveries and feelings on here.

  I went through a number of stages, like trying to think of ways to bring down the WTBS, also a kind of bereaved feeling, like I had lost a family member, not a loved family member, because the WT never loved me, but I still felt a "loss".

  I now feel totally apart from the JW/WT mentality and Org. I am a worldly person, and proud of it.

  I appreciate all I have gained.

  The WT will destroy itself before long, I will never free my family who are still in, and I will not even try anymore with them.

  I still love this place, the humour, evident love and care shown, and the incisive exposure of WT silliness and duplicity, you guys are my family now.
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  Identifying who Jehovah is using

  by jwfacts in

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  the governing body seems to have ramped up the number of comments in the watchtower in recent years that they are chosen by god and must be trusted as such.

  how exactly has jehovah manifested that the gb are his representatives and must be followed.

  tell me if i am missing something, but it seems in the bible, god provided dramatic signs to prove who his representatives were, yet these days there seems to be none.. .

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  wobble

  I have a question, the JW/WT organization isn't a cult by any chance ?
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  Does anyone know if they are still teaching the GT to newbies?

  by aristeas in

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  it has been quite an eye-opening last two weeks or so since i discovered & joined this site.

  i'm learning a lot and there's no doubt much still to learn.

  i must continue to thank so many posters for contributing information not available elsewhere on a wide variety of topics.

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  wobble

  If my memory serves me well, the Bible Teach book, (isn't that title, "What does the bible really teach" a misnomer !) , just presents the Blood doctrine as simply abstain, no mention of fractions, or is there an appendix article about this ?

  The book did me a favour, having determined for myself in late 2006 that 1914 was simply not in the Bible however you stretch things, I refused to go D to D offering to study this book with people, even if most of the doctrine was hidden in the appendix, I still wanted to preach the truth, not half-hidden lies.

  An Elder promised to return and defend the 1914 doctrine to me, he never did.
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  Have The Summer Conventions Started Yet?

  by jookbeard in

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  excuse if there is aatot , but wondering if any feed back/snippets and releases have been obtained by anyone, also of interest is the symposium on the 2nd day in particular the warnings of apostasy talk?.

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  wobble

  I think the one in Gillingham, Kent is at the end of next week,

  I last attended a D.C in 2006.

  I shall have a great weekend next week, no chance of running in to JW's !
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  How many will Jehovah KILL at armageddon?

  by jean-luc picard in

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  well that depends on the world population.. .

  if he had done it it 1914, he would only have killed 2 billion.. if he had done it in 1960, then he would have killed 3 billion.. if he had done it in 1975 ( so now we know why he didn't) he would only have had 4 billion to kill.. so is the question of when armaggedon will come, related to how many he wants to kill?.

  interestingly this site ( but dont bother reading it all, its......well you'll see).

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  wobble

  As both are fictional, jehovah and Armageddon, then make up your own number.

  but this is an interesting one to ask JW's, they usually come back with;

  "That is why we know it is soooo close"

  Numnutz.
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  An unfair test...

  by MrFreeze in

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  according to the holy wt, satan and his demons influence humans to do bad things.

  as a result of the bad things that satan makes us do, we are going to be judged.

  is that really fair?

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  wobble

  Be thankful that jehovah does not exist, him and justice are not bed-fellows.
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  June Service Meeting part: Marriage, separation and divorce

  by Quarterback in

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  i'm curious as to why this is a national topic for a service meeting part?

  has anyone any thoughts on this?.

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  wobble

  It has been a growing problem here in the U.K for many years, even older JW's are giving up on crap marriages, and often divorcing on grounds considered not "scriptural".

  To do this they have to stretch the truth about their problems in some way if they wish to stay in the religion, if they then marry they are DF'd.

  I don't believe that the GB/WT.Writers are overly concerned about "Happy families", they have noticed that for every breakup they lose at least one paying member, and the other is not in a position to contribute hardly any time or $$$ either.

  They are a hard hearted cynical lot, who by their rules and regs. cause a lot of marriage breakups .

  Their main concern is $$$
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  If everyone’s thinking the same way then someone is not thinking.

  by life is to short in

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  i was watching the voice last night and cee lo green said that to one of the contestants.. dose that not sound like the jw's.

  if i ever had a question it was always wait on jehovah and try not to think of it anymore.

  or just keep your blinders on and look straight ahead to the new system.

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  wobble

  Would a loving God who created our thinking abilities expect us to not use them ?

  That is what over 7 million non-thinking JW's believe.
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  Identifying who Jehovah is using

  by jwfacts in

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  2. beliefs

  the governing body seems to have ramped up the number of comments in the watchtower in recent years that they are chosen by god and must be trusted as such.

  how exactly has jehovah manifested that the gb are his representatives and must be followed.

  tell me if i am missing something, but it seems in the bible, god provided dramatic signs to prove who his representatives were, yet these days there seems to be none.. .

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  wobble

  Inbetween, you have the JW answers exactly as they have been given to me.

  As I said above, none of these claims stand up, they believe any Bull***t the WT comes out with, without examination or thought.
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  What would you say to a friend who claims to have experienced demons?

  by InterestedOne in

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  my jw friend says she experienced demons act on their own behalf even before she became a jw.

  she supposedly used to be an atheist, but her experience with demons led her to believe in the "spiritual realm" before she ever encountered jw's.

  she says her ex-boyfriend & his friend used to do the ouija board & as a result have a demon following them around.

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  wobble

  "I know it happened, you cannot prove it didn't" is often the cry of such people.

  Yes, in a strictly scientific sense we cannot disprove your claim, because you have given us no firm evidence to examine and get our teeth in to.

  You claim it is true because of what you "know",

  but we can disprove your claim from what we know.

  The largest body of sound reason and evidence wins.

  To anyone hearing voices, or regularly undergoing paranormal experiences, I would say get your condition investigated by medical experts, it could endanger you.