Posts by wobble

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How did you do it?

by GeneM in

wobble

I was born in, stayed in for 58 years, then just stopped going, not DA'd or DF'd, just viewed as inactive but dangerous to talk to, I could ruin their faith apparently, so easily.

I had intended to fade gradually, go to one or two meetings, but in the end I just could not face going back for even one more Meeting.

They didn't bother about us much, I got a visit from two enforcer Elders, they couldn't hang anything on me, so they left never to return, my wife never got a visit, she too was born in and in for 58 years.

I suppose I should be happy my exit was so simple, others have been harassed and bullied for ages.

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WT Flip-Flops on Jesus Inspection Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?

by Alfred in

this is utterly ridiculous.... .

the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.

it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).

wobble

Dear Shades, Yes Indeed, I was born in to the relgion.

So my critical thinking skills were pretty non-existent for all those years, but I could think for myself to a degree, I never swallowed the whole shebang.

I think my comment that you quote above comes over as though I am beliittling those still in, for which I apologise, but it sprang from frustration, I have made so many efforts to wake up my JW family, but the entrapment of their minds by the WT is so complete that it has all been to no avail.

They are programmed to reject any criticism of the WT. and any information that counters what they have been told to believe, so whatever you present is rejected, despite its truth and validity.

How could anyone look with an honest appraisal at what has been presnted on this thread and still say they support the GB and their claims ?

It is that dishonesty and lack of courage from my own family that makes me impatient, and perhaps a little scathing about JW's in general.

But yes, I hold my hands up, for decades I too was a DumbDub.l

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My only own regret when I left

by Joey Jo-Jo in

my parents are still witnesses, i read coc, isocf and conceptoc, then decided not to attend meetings.. i told them everything i knew about what was written and this pushed them away from me and further into the "truth", we still talk like a normal family but when a topic merges that i speak about jw's i get shunned, they don't comment.

i didn't understand why they continued to believe after i mentioned gb voting system, un, and others, i also mentioned about ray franz and what the bible really says, dad asked me why not i just join his (ray's) religion since i know so much.. i knew about hassans books but didn't see them necessary at the time, but i didn't understand why they are acting this way.

i just finished releasing the bonds, now i understand why they acted the way they did and why they didn't listen, my only regret was not reading this and combating cult mind control earlier.. so we were all brought up in the truth, all my family members are in the truth, during the years they were taught not to think anything negative about the religion - that's how you loose part of your critical thinking skills (remenber how the brothers kept remind of how happy we all are.).

wobble

Thanks Joey, we keep telling newbies on here to read both of Steve Hassan's books before acting, and as you painfully found out, it is good advice.

We all at first want to blow all of their beliefs out of the water with our new found big guns, but that hardly ever works.

Just living a good happy life yourself, and loving your family unconditionally is the way to go, eventually they may wake up.

An old saying puts it well "When the student is ready, the Teacher arrives" , you are ready to teach them when they are ready to learn.

Good luck !

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How important is or will be the WWC case? too good to be true?

by Aussie Oz in

how important is it now and how important will it be?.

i think of some of the cases in history that the wt has fought.... the 40s and 50s were spent defending the right to preach.

ok pretty important gains for everyone in freedom of speech etc.

wobble

The case is the most interesting one as far as potential goes that has ever happened,

The problem is that the WT will do their very best to bury this in Victoria, and may well succeed to a great degree, what we need to do is hang fire until the case proper has been dealt with, and then we need to get as much media attention as possible to bring to attention the WT's heartless attitude which consists of covering up what has happened and not bothering to protect children and the vulnerable subsequently.

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I just had JWs come to my door

by Scarred for life in

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friends

i had not seen them in my neighborhood in at least 4 years.

i ddn't go to the door.

i avoid them when at all possible.

wobble

I have lived in the same house since the dinosaurs roamed the earth, so the local dubs know where I live and most do not call, but as I am a nosey bugger and I work at home from a room overlooking the lane , I see how often they call around here, and it has dropped off dramatically in the last three years.

Why ?

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I don't get OBVES - do you?

by AK - Jeff in

it appears that obves started a ton of threads 9 years ago here on jwd/jwn.

all of them [that i have seen] filled with prophetic utterances regarding determining the end.

over those years, all the dates have failed.

wobble

I would like to make a study of such an individual if I were Freud or Jung, a fascinating case, and difficult to label with any of the conventinal dignostic labels I would guess.

I think both those estimable gentlemen might quite well come up with the same label : "Pain in the Arse"

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Out Of All JW Beliefs Which Is The Weirdest?

by minimus in

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friends

i know there's plenty.. one that comes to mind is the blood doctrine.

whole blood is bad, blood fractions may be ok but not all.....wtf?

?.

wobble

Lets face it ALL their beliefs are weird !!!!!

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What will you be having for Xmas dinner?

by Pams girl in

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friends

im getting rather excited!

its only 8 weeks away!

this year, for the 1st time in 6 years, we are having a proper xmas.

wobble

WE always had a bloody good meal and a piss up with as many of the family as possible coming to our place even when we were in.

The difference now is we only have family who are no longer in, or have never been in, and we now have Turkey if we want, neither of us rate it much actually, but it makes for another meat on the plate, and is O.K cold with pickles at a later time.

The Christmases since we left have been special, we have got to know our non-witness family so much better, long talks and lots of laughter !

We always did drink a lot on Chrissy Day, but the last few since we left have been historic !!

I am looking forward to it this year again, I do hope most of the Irish can make it over here, they make me look like a modest drinker ! and they are so damn funny ! wonderful conversationalists, full of Blarney !

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Kingdumb maladies stuck in your head...

by Leto in

i had a dream last night that i went to a meeting.

the speaker announced we were going to sing the "we're jehovah's witnesses" song, to which i said an audible "dear god" which got a bunch of dirty looks from other people sitting by me.

so now i'm awake, sipping my coffee, and i have "we're jehovah's witnesses" stuck in my head.

wobble

Its called an "earworm" when asong gets stuck in your head, if you allow it to go on too long it burrows in to your brain until it drops out of the other side !

I don't get the god-awful Kingdumb Maladies any more, but it still happens with annoying adverisiing jingles and such, of course, that is what that industry wants.

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Is the WT a "spiritual paradise"?

by Fernando in

why is it near impossible to find a person in this "spiritual paradise" that has the "good news according to paul" in their hearts and on their lips?.

not a big deal?.

to paul it was!.

wobble

Thanks for that link ,fokyc, Ozziepost was a perceptive poster.

It is quite a laugh really, my Dubbie family go on about the importance of the preaching work, but how can it be important when it does not contain the Good News as found in scripture ? Working to promote an American publishing company is not important work.

As for the whole religion, it is a totally dry desert spiritually, as arid as can be, I felt this more and more as I gradually became convinced that I had to leave, every meeting I attended I tried to inject a bit of spirituality in to, if I commented, but without that it was bereft of anything that you could call spiritual.

Watchtower World, a land for the totally deluded spiritually dead.