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  "It's Ok to Lie"

  by Azazel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my turn on the soapbox.. .

  well friends ive just gotton home from the special edition meeting, care of the enthusiastic circus overseer and what a great moral lesson his talk was tonight.. .

  do you want to be a guest in god's tent?.

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  wobble

  Exactly Cedars, even when I was a practising JW I used to laugh at how they were told to think, from Rutherfords time, that the world gave a flying f**k about them and their religion.

  My son tells me that in his fairly small circle of friends , there is a majority who have never heard of JW's , and this after over 100 years of preaching in this area !

  And when I say never heard of, I mean they don't have a clue who you are talking about.

  JW's don't have to lie to cover up about their real selves, they are not on the radar !
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  MONTREAL MASSACRE REMEMBERED ... please join with me in this ...

  by talesin in

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  2. friends

  please hear this song in rememberance of the women massacred on this day ....

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzdwvmmutm.

  tal .

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  wobble

  So sad, my thoughts are with the family, friends and those that loved these poor young ladies, it was a few years ago, but the pain must return for all of them in early December much more intensely than the pain they still feel on a daily basis.

  I see that the killer, Marc Lepine,was the victim of abuse as a child, maybe we should do more as a society to help abuse victims to survive their ordeal. I am not making excuses at all, but looking for ways to prevent further pointless violence.

  Here in the U.K we have just opened our first clinic for stalkers, as often such men go on to kill the female they are stalking, I hope it prevents violence.

  Some women do perpetrate violent acts, suicide bombings for example, but men are usually behind such things. The thinking of men needs fixing, stalkers, misogynists, wife beaters, believers in a violent god, all need their minds fixing, they are mentally diseased, to steal a phrase.
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  Please Post Reasons For Not Believing The Witnesses Have The "Truth" Anymore

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i see a few want to believe in the watchtower's view of bible prophecy, scriptural understandings and the view that the "anointed remnant" dispense the "spiritual food at the proper time".. how would you refute those views?.

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  wobble

  The only brief moment in time when they had a grasp of a truth was when Rutherford said "Religion is a snare and a racket", he was right of course, not to exclude his very own religion by that statement.
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  Do YOU Believe That JWs Have A Huge Problem With Pedophiles?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't think there are more pedophiles in the religion than there are in others.. i understand that one is too many.

  but i think some believe that it's an epidemic within the organization.

  i believe their 2 witness rule can help pedophiles secretly abuse kids.. but i don't think that this particular crime dominates those in the religion.. .

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  wobble

  The problem is that they have no proper functioning programme in place to protect the vulnerable, plus they have no system of trackimg Paedo's and notifying a congregation when one moves in, and they do not do CRB checks !

  So, we may not believe the problem is any worse than any other religion (who are you comparing it to, the RC church?) but nobody really knows.

  They must be made to get the best possible systems in place to tackle and prevent the problem, not just try to bury it after the crime has been committed, by then a child's life has been stolen.
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  Christmas Origins VS. Watchtower's 1914

  by Butterflyleia85 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok sooo this of course has nothing to do with each other but the reasoning is beneficial for critical thinkers.

  christmas is one of the most popular holidays that has spread throughout the world.

  what one can think is that this holiday must have its significance, yes greatly influenced but in order for something to be so influenced it has to have ground of truth and honesty behind it.

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  wobble

  The 1914 date is a direct result of Russell plagiarising the work of others before him, William Miller, whose calculations ended in "The Great Disappointment", and others, often of the Adventist movement.

  Pyramidology is just looney, but on a par with astrology etc.

  So, at the very least,even ignoring the pyramid, the doctrine comes from "Christendom" and what JW's would call Apostate sources.

  The strange thing is, that as Russell never formally dis-associated his church from the Adventists, the JW's are still connected to what they call "Apostate Christendom ", thay are a sect of Adventism.

  Chew on that Mankelli.
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  To garyneal and Others, Evidence that the anointed remnants represented by the GB were selected in 1919.

  by mankkeli in

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  2. experiences

  1st evidence: the release of loyal jews from exile, made possible by the fall of babylon, foreshadowed the release in 1919 of anointed christians from spiritual exile.

  2nd evidence: that year marked the beginning of the period when the anointed remnants were released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion.

  although having rejected such false teachings as the trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by babylonish practices.

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  wobble

  Good for a laugh though, and exposes in the blazing arc lights of Truth that the WT/JW leadership has nothing to back their spurious claim to having been chosen by Jesus.

  Self appointed wind bags.
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  Victoria, Australia: Brief Update - Steven Unthank is still Acting Prosecutor, etc.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  court hearing results for december 6, 2011:.

  steven unthank is still the acting prosecutor (and that's why he could not comment on the case on the"dialogue" program), and all 5 cases are still before the courts.

  the crown informed the court that the office of public prosecutions are "acting as a facilitator at the moment"; and that the police investigation is "quite well progressed"; and that the police are awaiting response from the department of justice.. .

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  wobble

  Dear 2tone, You could well be right, but whatever happens, we have to make sure that this case wakes up the JW's to their responsibility to protect children and the vulmerable.

  Their disgusting attitude of ignoring, not just the danger, but often the offences going on in their midst, and not putting in place proper working practices that protect has GOT to change.

  Even if this case does not get as huge as we would like, we can publicise it in our own countries and make the public aware of "The Paedophile at YOUR door" and force the JW's to take the steps they should have done morally years ago.

  Even tiny pre-school nursery groups in my area actually ensure the protection of those in their charge, JW's have no excuse.
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  IAD - Internet Addiction Disorder

  by sizemik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does it exists?.

  this article is quite interesting .

  .. http://psychcentral.com/netaddiction/.

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  wobble

  Its my neutrino powered web scanning device that gives me the extra hour.
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  JW Apologists, Lurkers, etc., can you prove the selection in 1919?

  by garyneal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean, this is the pivotal doctrine that will prove beyond all shadow of a doubt that this religion really is the one true religion.. why is this so?.

  why not just read and study the bible and see that the witnesses adhere to it and therefore must be the one true religion?.

  because a lot of what the witnesses say that bible says is merely their interpretation of the bible from my point of view.

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  wobble

  BUmp again, it is SO important this.

  If the 1919 choosing by Jesus cannot be proven, then the GB has no credibility or authority, and neither do any dogs-body Elders.

  All of them become self-appointed frauds.
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  IAD - Internet Addiction Disorder

  by sizemik in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does it exists?.

  this article is quite interesting .

  .. http://psychcentral.com/netaddiction/.

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  wobble

  Have I got it bad if I am on here 25 hours a day ?