Posts by wobble

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Difficulties understanding passage.

by s-c-3-1-3 in

i am reading colossians 1:15-18, and understand it to mean that jehovah created jesus who then created all other things in the world, thus jesus crall things except for god who created him.

is this correct?

thanks in advance!.

wobble

The first thing the Bible did wrong was to Anthropomorphise the Supreme Being, if one were to exist, no description in human terms would suffice.

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first of all , may i wish you all a happy new year.. in response to obaracs earlier thread, i think it would be amusing to list all the dc themes that we can remember.. it would be interesting to compile them in excel and amusing to see the irony in them over the decades.. so what themes do you recall, and from what year?.

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wobble

Obey the G.B is actually the theme of every D.C , so you rightly do not put a year Punky !

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Science vs Religion vs Spirituality?

by Fernando in

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wobble

For me, spirituality is that which is metaphysical, at present at least. Science may well explain these things in the future, things like inspiration to produce art or music, the ability to predict, etc.

Already explaned to a degree, but there seems to be much that is not clear, certainly I do not include any beliefs in unprovable beings, God's or Devils etc as part of the kind of spirituality that makes for progress.

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The Name "Jesus" - Another Take

by AGuest in

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friends

to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

as you may know, i have shared the information given me by our lord as to his name, jah eshua.

we've had many discussions, others and i, regarding this... with some stating concern because they believe i am the "only" one to use that name.

wobble

Thanks for the PM Shelby, I will read and think about those threads.

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The WT, the Millerites and Orson Wells

by Aussie Oz in

it is well known of course that ct russell was a fan of william miller and the mans teachings.

indeed his colaboration with millerite nelson barbour cemented russells love of all that was millerism.. i recall some time ago a thread wherin it was mentioned that fred franz had a library stuffed full of millerite books and so on, and that he himself modeled his own style of address and writing after william miller himself.. with that sort of impact on the doctrines and teaching methods adopted by the society at that time, i am also wondering about orson wells book 1984.. could it be plausable that this book also has its place on the shelves of some locked away private library?

published in 1949, the wt leadership has had plenty of time to study the methods of the novel and try them out.

wobble

Good one JWd'ter ! Tim Minchen would approve of that connection ! Eric Blair(George Orwell) was a great writer, with an informed take on the affairs of his time, his articles on a number of subjects are free on-line.

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The Name "Jesus" - Another Take

by AGuest in

jw
friends

to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.

as you may know, i have shared the information given me by our lord as to his name, jah eshua.

we've had many discussions, others and i, regarding this... with some stating concern because they believe i am the "only" one to use that name.

wobble

If my memory serves,dear Shelby, and it is not reliable nowadays, I believe you have a thread or a post somewhere that explains fully why the name is as you say.

Could you post a link please ? or if you have time post an explanation on here, for new members especially.

Bible names have always interested me , but this is more important than just surface meanings.

The article in your link claims that Mary's native tongue was Hebrew ? I thought that Mary, and your Lord, were speakers of Aramaic as a first languge ?and then more likely Greek as a second, and Hebrew third ??

I am not being rude here, but I am interested, when your Lord speaks to you, do you hear the actual voice, if so, what accent has the voice, or perhaps it is not as simple as that ?

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Fallen humans are the MEDIATOR between God and man - WBT$ reaffirms

by Fernando in

some have been wondering if the watchtower might reinstate jesus after disfellowshipping him as the one mediator between god and man.. apparently not.. "future light" from march 2012 reaffirms that jesus has been indefinitely replaced by a ruling religious clergy class of mediators.. "those in the covenant are few, a mere 144,000. through them, millions from all nations will be blessed with everlasting life in an earthly paradise.

" (w2012 mar 01 p17, http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20120301.pdf).. "the anointed" in the nt/nc scriptures is always "ho kristos" or "the christ" - who the wbt$ has openly replaced (for several decades now) with a small group of fallen humans (11,824 false christs in 2011) who the blind sanhedrin (gb) lyingly claim to represent.. .

(thanks to "therevealer" for posting the above watchtower mar 2012 quote two days ago)..

wobble

If Jesus returns, I shall speak to him, at length, about some "necessary family business".

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SPECIAL INTERVIEW with Jehovah!

by Terry in

you live; you die.

r: but, why give us a bible.

why send jesus to die for us if everything is "meaningless" for us?.

wobble

Canonize Terry, Saint Terry, Patron Saint of the Confused. Sounds good to me.

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by distraff in

there are many creatures with vestigial eyes.. .

the mole rat lived underground like the mole, so they do not need eyes at all.

they have small eyes that are covered by skin making them blind.. .

wobble

There are some creatures with no brain.......... add your own punch line.

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Proof versus stories...how important is it to you?

by Aussie Oz in

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friends

many of us have had our say (often) regarding rick and six screens.. i don't know why, but i just need to say this...and it is only my opinion but i think its spot on or i wouldn't write it.. the problem is not ricks story's, goodness knows we all like new story's, gossip, predictions, rumours or whatever regarding the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.. its the way its done.

we all know there is not tangible proof of many things we like to talk about, we all speculate about what is or will go on.

but we recognize that.

wobble

I totally agree Black Sheep, he does far more harm than good, if indeed he does any good.

When I was first researching on the Net I found his site and it struck me as downright Satanic !

Itwas just as we had been told as JW's an Apostate site would be, add to that the false claims etc and he is an enemy of those trying to find out the truth about the WT.

The sad thing is that he must put off JW's who would come here, and other valuable sites, and free their minds and hearts, it would have been easy for me to dismiss the whole of the Internet because of him and his site, as I had the JW mindset then.

Whether or not he has a direct connection to the WT, who knows ? He is certainly doing a good job for them.