Julie Andrews as Mary Poppins scared the you-know-what out of me when I was a kid.
This is for you, Robdar. Enjoy!
Julie Andrews as Mary Poppins scared the you-know-what out of me when I was a kid.
This is for you, Robdar. Enjoy!
next weekend congregations around the world will be studying the wt article on the new definition of a "generation".. i would think there will be an epidemic of cognitive dissonance.
this must be the first time there has been a change of doctrine on a singular topic twice in 13 years.
for those still in like me, use the opportunity to get your partner thinking..
Hey Galileo... I know what you were saying... You should've read the sarcasm in my post....
I did. I was making a joke too. I was trying to sound like what the WTS said after the 1975 fiasco: that a few over zealous brothers took what they said and read something in that they never claimed. I look forward to your story when you get the time.
next weekend congregations around the world will be studying the wt article on the new definition of a "generation".. i would think there will be an epidemic of cognitive dissonance.
this must be the first time there has been a change of doctrine on a singular topic twice in 13 years.
for those still in like me, use the opportunity to get your partner thinking..
Awakened - I was just asking a question friend! I'm sorry if a few over zealous readers here might jump to a conclusion I never made!
BTW, when are you going to write your story? I love your alias, and at the same time, it hints at a very interesting story that must be told.
next weekend congregations around the world will be studying the wt article on the new definition of a "generation".. i would think there will be an epidemic of cognitive dissonance.
this must be the first time there has been a change of doctrine on a singular topic twice in 13 years.
for those still in like me, use the opportunity to get your partner thinking..
18 But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. 19 The way of the wicked ones is like the gloom; they have not known at what they keep stumbling.
Assuming this scripture is referring to scriptural knowledge (which is a big assumption), which of the two groups does the WTS more closely resemble? Have they simply gotten a clearer view of the path, a more detailed understanding of truth, over time? Or have they stumbled around, offering "new light" (a phrase that doesn't appear in this passage at all) that is one hundred eighty degrees the opposite of what they were teaching before? "This generation" was the annointed alive in 1914, then they were the wicked generation that saw the signs but took no note, now they are the annointed again, but without the time constraint. Personally, I have never seen the sun come partially up, then go back down, then come up on the opposite side. Isn'the day supposed to be "firmly estabished" at some point?
When I was about eleven or twelve years old, I was having a conversation with my mother and my older brother about how we know this is the truth. I mentioned that one reason I believed was that they had made a prophecy that could be tested; i.e; if they were right, the end would come before some specific cutoff point in the future (I said 2014, since the current understanding was that the "generation" would have had to b old enough to understand the events of 1914, say, 4 or 5, so in 2014 their would be very few if any left). I said if they were wrong, they would have to change their interpretation as that date approached, and everyone would know that they were liars. I was rather proud of this line of reasoning, and the faith it instilled in me, the fact tha they were so sure they would make testable claims. My mother was rather horrified. She proceeded to drill it into my head about "new light", that baically they can change anything at anytime and that doesn't mean they were ever wrong (not her exact words, of course). I put it out of my mind, but it sure came rushing back in 1995.
One thing you can always count on with the Society's "new light": it goes away from a testable claim towards a more ephemeral one, to the point now that they no longer make a single claim about the future that can be empirically tested. Clever buggers.
leaving the dubs is a journey and most of us have learned valuable things in our travels.
i'm curious what new truths y'all have learned since you exited.
here is what i have learned since i walked out of the kh back in '03 and kept going:.
That freedom of thought is a beautiful thing.
That we are not lowly and unworthy simply because we are human.
That biologists are not idiots.
seems this woman is always, and i mean always, absent from topics related to religious conflicts.. again, today, when cultic behavior [ lds raid in texas] is discussed as a hot topic, she's not there.. a few weeks ago, there was the topic of the child that died due to the parents thinking god would heal her.
sheri was not there.. it's really starting to piss me off.. there have also been ample opportunities for her to speak out about abuse that goes on in jw religion.
she never takes it.. yesterday she reveals that when she had an opportunity to look at princes credit info, she took it.. i'm about to fire off an email and ask point blank, why she keeps avoiding (by being absent) these topics.. anyone else notice this about her?.
Those clips are the first time I've ever watched The View (I'm a man, so I'm pretty sure it's against the law). Oh my god. I can't believe they found somebody that makes Whoopy Goldberg look smart!
june 15th 2008 study edition of the watchtower can be downloaded here as a pdf file, it is ocr'd and bookmarked:.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/b05tqk.
don't forget, you can also listen to this item here:.
"Additional "disgusting things" include acts of pedophilia and other forms of sexual immorality committed by clergymen and tolerated by the church authorities. Is it any wonder that Jehovah God will soon rid this Earth of false religion?"
No comment necessary.
Let's hope they replace her with Robin Meade. Ratings through the roof, guaranteed. She's almost enough to make me believe in God again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XEfHURMDwk&feature=related
hey guys!.
i can't wait to tell you something that happened last night.
in order to understarnd it, let me give you some details about me first: i'm still an elder, with my wife and the whole family and friends inside the borg.
My first time reading this thread as well. Wow, I'm so happy for you! At the same time I must confess I got a little teary eyed, thinking about how different things could've been for me if my wife had been willing to listen. Congratulations! Score one for the good guys.
When I was fading, I started reporting less & less service time until I was removed as an MS (in truth I wasn't going out at all, just making up time). That's one approach.
Also, what was that Bethel dress & grooming letter? Was it a directive on what to wear when visiting Bethel? Can you some it up?
chapter 1: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/155373/1.ashx.
chapter 2: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/155429/1.ashx.
chapter 3: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/155490/1.ashx.
Wow. Absolutely a punch to the stomach. Amazing how so many witness parents act like their chlidren dating is the worst possible thing they could do. I hope your medical condition wasn't something permanent. That must have been terrifying.