What James Thomas said :)
Pulls Shamus's muppet ears :)
gypsywildone
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What is more important to understand...
by Siddhashunyata inmoral principles, doctrine , prophecy , ourselves ?
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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!
by Globetrotter ini got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.
we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.
this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.
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gypsywildone
Globetrotter, you have not taken up too much space. IMHO, the space is better allocated to this than to fluff & political rants that seem to proliferate this board lately.
GaryB, my heart goes out to you. On many points I agree with you, the marriage is the nucleus of the family. It is like the hub of a wheel, & the children are like spokes, coming out from the CENTER.
There is no room for religious fanaticism & cult mind control in that center.
I would not be in a relationship with a spouse that did not put ME first & foremost. It is an emotional affair, you are correct. This alligience to a publishing company is an emotional abandonment of the spouse. The emotional investment is not with the wife, or the family. And the jws are predators. It is their life's work. They spend hours at meetings perfecting the art. Ignore them at your peril.
I have never even heard of a marriage that was very happy that was half jw, half not. As mobbie said, there is no common ground. There is nothing in common. That is true when anyone becomes imbalanced. Any kind of fanatacism alienates others, especially a spouse. Anyone constantly spouting an "ism" wether it is a religion, anti-governmentism, materialism, whatever becomes out of focus, loses perspective. I just cannot fathom a marriage with someone who's every conversation is geared toward "preaching the good news". I cannot imagine a marriage to someone who's only use for people is to convert, convert, convert.
Globetrotter, it is not horrible things that you say. You've no reason to feel guilty. A person who is merely a puppet for a publishing company commandeers very little respect indeed. But please do NOT alienate your children. Be there for them, they need you desperately! You can help them thorugh love & education. Education about cults & how they work. Education about freedom. You can plant the seed in their minds that opens their eyes. At times they may treat you harshly, it is the mind control. but you can be their rock in a sea of abuse. You can show them through loving kindness that there are many roads to take, & they can accomplish anything they set their minds to. You can see to it that they get educated while the WBTS is saying jehoover is going to kill anyone not a jw, so that they succeed.
Do keep posting, we are here & many have been there or lived through the dysfunction.
3 cheers for mobbie!
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So now what?
by Puternut ini am a new member here and wanted to say hello to all.
i noticed that there are a lot of hot topics being discussed here.
i am not bitter or angry, just kinda very lost in the shuffle and hope to meet some new people.
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gypsywildone
Welcome! Do you have any hobbies? What do YOU like? What are YOU interested in?
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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!
by Globetrotter ini got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.
we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.
this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.
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My mother got into that cult when I was 13. She drove my dad out of house and home by following Watchtower dictates. The ever changing rules. Making sure he could no longer enjoy holidays. Becoming unable to hold a normal conversation that didn't involve the jws & their god. Alternately treating him as if she pitied him because he was missing something special, & treating him like a second class citizen in the home HE paid for. This cult slowly, but surely, takes over a person's entire life & personality. She learned these tactics at the kingdom hall. That is exactly where the behaviors came from. Her time was so tied up with the jws, & her allegiance was to them, first and foremost. PeacefulPete & Mobbie are right, it is nothing but dysfunction. I could not wait to get free of her & her jw psychosis, & it took my dad a few years of trying before he could not take it anymore & left. I did the same as soon as it was legal.
As a result, not one of her 3 children even have anything to do with her. Her emotional investment was not with the family, it was with WBTS. May they keep her loved, safe, & take care of her when she gets old.
A marriage license is not a life sentence. Sometimes, a person just can't take anymore Watchtower abuse & interference in their life. Sometimes, they just want to be respected as a person, & be happy. I just don't see anything wrong with a person knowing they tried their best, & admitting they can't live like that any longer.
Sometimes, families just want acceptance & real family love, not love that can be turned on and off, depending on pleasing the unpleasable.
It worked for us 4 :) His children are so very fortunate they have him to protect them from the jw cult, & he will see to it that they get what they need, emotionally, & otherwise. He will do this while she runs the watchtower treadmil. They will need him, & he will have what they need.
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So now what?
by Puternut ini am a new member here and wanted to say hello to all.
i noticed that there are a lot of hot topics being discussed here.
i am not bitter or angry, just kinda very lost in the shuffle and hope to meet some new people.
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Welcome! How long have you been "out"? Do you have family still in?
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Who Was The Very First Poster That You Met In Real Life?
by Englishman inthe first poster that i ever met was philo.. we'd traded a few stories via the site and i realised that we knew some of the same people down in portsmouth.. he was very cagey as to his real identity, but eventually we shared emails and he told me all about himself.
one day, i took hl down to portsmouth to see my daughter who lives there.
i'd mentioned it in a post, that i was going in that direction.
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The insightful & enjoyable jimxjw. Turns out we were doing time in the same kingdom hall during the same time frame, but didn't really remember each other from that. We went to a 4 hour lunch & talked & laughed about old biddies we used to know, gossip queens, rudolph the red nosed drunks & other assorted jws we used to know/be ratted on by :)
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my sister asked for help..haahaha
by the mole inhi everyone, im back....sorry for the long pause.
doing the ot at work...............here is my latest update on my sister and family rejecting me............ .
** remember when me and my sister argued why i dont want go to meetings?
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I have an xjw friend who goes through this s^*% all the time, family treats her very bad, but comes running when they need a favor. It is sad.
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Are There Some People Here That You Feel TOTALLY Comfortable With??
by minimus in....that you could tell them anything and share your identity with??
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I have met many, many people that post here now at a few places. I didn't meet them on here for the first time, it was thorugh other net sources & places, but many do post here.
I am very cautious after having been lied about, much malinged, & just abused on an xjw list a few years back. People I thought were my friends wolf packed me without knowing the other person was a total liar & malcontent. So I'm aloof. That person eventually showed their true colors big time though. But fool me twice, shame on me.
What you have here is a microcosm of society. All kinds of people leading all kinds of lifestyles doing all kinds of things. The net is full of all types in general. I would never trust anyone I hadn't at least talked to on the phone. Anyone on the net can misrepresent their identity, etc., & run a game. anyone can claim to be sick & get money out of trusting people looking for friendship. I have seen a lot.
That being said, I have met so many wonderful people that post on here. The lovely Mouthy, my bud jimxjw, sweet CynthiaH, RoyL, DocBob, lots of wonderful, together people. The dynanmic FrannieB & I have been known to burn uip a phone line or two :)
I have spent a week at Country Girl's fabulous resort, rode her horses, shared her brew & just bonded with her in a special way :)
Not everyone on the net is a scamming loser, but I think he who throws caution to the wind & takes everyone at face value or believes everything they read on the net, does so at their own peril.
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Infant Circumcision
by RAYZORBLADE ini figured that this topic must come up from time to time; especially moreso over here in north america.. as some of you are well aware, i posted a lovely thread about the upcoming birth about my nephew.. i'm thrilled about him, i simply just can't wait.. anyways, having been born here in north america, specifically: canada.
circumcision was common, if not all the rage in the 1950s, and 1960s and probably up until the 1970s.
with national health care, you can bet that the medical profession saw many dollars with regards to foreskins (sorry for graphic remarks).
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No headless horsemen for me.
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Pretzels are Pagan, will you eat just one?
by codeblue inlast night mr. cb and i were watching the travel channel which had an interesting program about pretzels.
the pretzel was originally made in 620 a.d. by the monks.
the meaning of the shape of the pretzel we found even more amazing.
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Lol, do not eat ANY blue foods, because SMURFS are blue & everyone knows the little blue creatures are demon posessed . . .