Posts by lancelink

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a basic of abuse

by lancelink in

i have been studying psychology this past semester at college, and i had a different type of question for this site.

when abuse of any type occurs ( whether it be toward children, or adults) usually animal abuse can be found linked .

somewhere in the abusers past.

thank you for the posts, I was not trying to imply that JW's are horrible animal abusers.

i was just studying it and the thought crossed my mind, hey there are people from all over the world on this site,
I was just a little curious,

thank you again.

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Family situation

by frisbee in

just looking for a bit of good advice, my daughter and son in law have been dfd and i have two great grandsons, elders on patrol realise have been communicating and are now arranging for a meet with co in two weeks, they saw fit to remove what limited priveledges i still hold with all that stuff about disloyalty, sharer in wicked works etc.

so now too visit and hug grandsons may release the damocletian sword, are any of you guys stll in touch with close family even if still in - have you had major run ins with the boe in similar situations.oh, i dont need a get out clause for the moment.

lancelink

Family first.

If you cast them off, you will regret it for the rest of your life.

You don't know me but honestly,, trust me on this one.

I have several family members, and close friends who are DF'd. I MAKE time to see them and really don't care
what the elders think.

I have noticed that if you are confident, and secure with your decision and let them know how you feel,
they tend to back off in this type of situation.

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Emotional Reactions to the Loss of the Book Study

by DT in

jw
friends

i think the loss of the book study will hit some like a death of a friend.

it will mark the end of an era.

it will forever change the religion of jehovah's witnesses and i believe the change is completely irreversible.. of course, most witnesses will be delighted by this.

lancelink

we once had a bs in our house for about three years.

it was tolerable, but getting home from work, cleaning house, putting the good china away, wow the stress we put up with to have a bs
in our home. And the service overseer who would call and tell us afterwards depending on the season that the heat was too low, or the air was not cold enough drove us to finally call it quits, enough is enough.

The funniest thing was a teenage sister who went to use the bathroom, and during a silent part of the study waiting for answers
this girl breaks out in song, and she sounded really loud with the echo from the bathroom right next to the study area.
She MUST have forgotten where she was, man was that a funny night.
Afterwards some of the younger hot shot, wise guys thought that maybe she was constipated and it finally broke free.

what memories !!!

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a basic of abuse

by lancelink in

i have been studying psychology this past semester at college, and i had a different type of question for this site.

when abuse of any type occurs ( whether it be toward children, or adults) usually animal abuse can be found linked .

somewhere in the abusers past.

lancelink

I have been studying Psychology this past semester at college, and I had a different type of question for this site.

When abuse of any type occurs ( whether it be toward children, or adults) usually animal abuse can be found linked
somewhere in the abusers past.

It seems that abusing an animal is acknowledged as an outlet for allowing troubled personalities to vent,
it allows the person to feel more "in charge."
After abusing the animal this type of personality can just snowball into more perverse, and damaging aspects.

Here is one of the many links I have been reading for this class:

http://www.helpinganimals.com/ga_humanAbuse.asp

Now here is my question, ( this is not whining, or picking an argument) does anyone here have any stories about witnesses treating animals in a bad way?

It seems with all the repressed personalities in this religion esp. with teenage JW's, or abusive elders,
this type of problem would be prevalent, yet people might not recognize it as being strange.
It was a real eye-opener for me to read about this

I’m not trying to cause trouble for anyone, just curious about this aspect.

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How the new "generation" study went down in the meeting today

by slimboyfat in

i made a big effort to get to the watchtower study today.

i have not been to the meetings much for months, but i figured this was a pretty historic "study" and i wanted to see reactions and how it would go down locally.

well a few things struck me as a bit odd in the study itself, and in the audience response as well.

lancelink

The hall I went to has a huge amount of younger persons, and it seemed to basically just go in one ear and out the other.

There was one comment that really made my mind flame out regarding perceptions:
One person who must have been in the JW organization for a longer time, made a comment regarding a scripture
(i don't remember which one) of how Jesus would be ashamed of his followers if they did not follow his teachings, and how we should accept
this new light and follow it.
Afterwards, I was speaking to an older lady, and she kept stating how wonderful it is that this new light has been made available to us
at the "proper time." I felt like Neo in the matrix at that moment, " take the redpill, or the blue one."

Personally, I believe that the society was beginning to feel the pressure of the 1914 generation teaching slowly, and steadily becoming
obsolete.
Being very selective with this article, they were able to avoid upsetting the younger people, and the older ones
would probably feel that they were wrong if any questions popped up in their minds.

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Why the WT Society is DOOMED!

by Gill in

jw
friends

yesterday morning i was listening to 'thought for the day', on radio 4 bbc.. a rabbi was discussing why the jewish faith had survived for thousands of years.. he pointed out that the centre of the faith was the children.

because the children were put first they wanted to stay in the faith as the faith respected them and so they respected the faith in return.. the problem with the wt society is that it puts itself first and the children are just a nuisance to be sat silent in meetings, disciplined for wriggling, talking, and just being children.

the leaders of the wt despise children and only love themselves, giving only lip service to the care children should receive and more importantly the respect children should receive.. therefore, with offspring of jws leaving the wt at the rate of only 1 in every 8 children remaining, the writing is on the wall of the watchtower society.

lancelink

A Rabbi was discussing why the Jewish Faith had survived for thousands of years.

He pointed out that the centre of the faith was the children. Because the children were put first they wanted to stay in the faith as the faith respected them and so they respected the faith in return.

I appreciate this comment !

Friday evening I attended a Jewish service (I'm taking a college class religions of the world)and the way that the children are involved is amazing.
The kids seem to want to be a part of this faith, nothing like the JW way of raising kids.

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What are the best and worst congregations in the Midwest

by laneh in

jw
friends

what do you think, either way?

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lancelink

Crystal Lake, Illinois.

Back in the 70's and 80's I knew many people who went here, and all I heard was how f####d up the elderbody was.

lets see,,some of the names i remember hearing were sterene, and penkava, some of the most self absorbed sob's i ever heard about.

The cong. was a mirror image of their lack of confidence, everything had to go EXACTLY the way these guys saw fit, or you were doing something wrong ( usually there was a spiritual deficit on your part.)

There were many persons that I knew back then who basically quit the jw's, or moved to another hall because of these two guys unrelenting need for power and control.

And guess what ? I hear that they both are no longer elders, maybe the holy spirit saw their attitudes and finally acted!

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Chet Lemon

by asilentone in

he was a professional baseball player with detroit tigers and he became jw in the 80's.

i was wondering what is his status in the org?.

lancelink

I met him at the Janesville Wisconsin assembly hall back in the late 70's when he just was starting to study.

Knowing who he was made it kind of un-nerving to actually meet him ( being a teenager myself at the time.)

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What Careers, Opportunities Did you Have to Sacrifice - to be a Witness ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

i know this may be an annoying subject .

but if you did have to give up doing what you wanted in a career or opportunity - what was it ?

how controlling was the organization over you, and were you counseled by elders or higher ups to not pursue certain jobs, opportunities, college , etc - so that you stayed in the witnesses for awhile ; not doing what you wanted?

lancelink

medical school,

I worked for a doctor in H.S. and he really wanted to help me out.

He was going to pay for, and give me a loan for school.

But J W's don't do that!!

I kick myself everyday for not following my dreams

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Witness Kids - Scared silly by the WTBTS

by misspeaches in

i wonder if anyone else who grew up as a jw can relate with me on this subject.. i grew up hearing stories of 'faithful brothers & sisters' being tortured to a point where they were almost dead.

all they had to do to be set free was renounce jehovah and their religon.

the stories i heard of torture were graphic in nature and to this day i can not handle hearing about torture or watch it being portrayed in movies.

lancelink

what really blew my mind is hearing all these stories growing up, yet when Schindlers List came out our
PO continually stated that this movie was not for christians.

i mentioned that many brothers and sisters had to endure things shown in this movie, and even in the WT magazines there are some
pretty graphic descriptions of torture on the witnesses.

Nope, Schindlers list is not a good movie,

ever since that day I began to realize what a crock of garbage we were being told by the Po and his associates.