keinlezard

Joined

• started 10 topics
• posted 197 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by keinlezard

• 
  8

  2021-December-S-147-English Announcements-and-Italian--Portuguese Elder Manuals!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021-december-s-147-uk-announcements and reminders.

  https://www.filemail.com/d/aqervnmnydhabudorhttps://we.tl/t-fffjovd2ep-----------------------------------.

  2021-october-italian-sfl-shepherd the flock-elder manualhttps://www.filemail.com/d/ovlnprszkuparxmor.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Many Thank Atlantis :)
• 
  18

  2021-November-18--Pioneers!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021-11-18--pioneers.

  click the image to make it larger.. .

  https://postimg.cc/4nydmk0j.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Many Thanks :)
• 
  12

  Removing GB arragment.

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you think they abouth to remove gb arragment?

  more and more with gb talks, they seem to be saying goodbye to congregations.

  maeby its part of downsize.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hello,

  They can't ... because all directive comes from GB ... even "CEO" of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is JW and obeys to GB instruction.

  I think they only act to avoir judicial consequences of "pedophile act" they made throught "secret elder book"

  The GB will say "we have no authority see .. we are just Guardian of Doctrine, that's all" ... but in reality they tell to all the jw what they can do every day, and in every situation ...

  They are the real leaders of the WT, all the others are only puppets

  .. But leaders who do not seem to have any decision-making power just to avoid the judicial consequences of their own laws
  Best regards
• 
  17

  2021-November-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021-november-s-147-announcements and reminders.

  english and german.

  https://www.filemail.com/d/jyqtggmagakcdrq.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Thank you
• 
  12

  2021-October-S-147-English-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.filemail.com/d/mfuzldydyicjoyg.

  https://we.tl/t-s3ggseysgf.

  atlantis!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Thank you :)
• 
  22

  Any signs that Kingdom Halls will re-open soon or door to door work will re-start again?

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've not heard anything from pimi wife about going back to the khs yet let alone the door to door work.. many churches round here have re-opened if only for private pray and i am guessing that things like singing may be a factor in the reluctance of the witnesses to get back together again.

  i also detect that many older ones are still quite afraid to go anywhere they may come in contact with people, even for shopping.

  on the other hand, here in uk you can now go to a football match with 70,000 others shouting and chanting.. the door to door work may a total different issue.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hello

  here in France nothing opened too .. and I heard that assembly will be produce on line until 2022

  But they continue to ask for money during these virtual assembly :(

  Best Regards
• 
  21

  2021-September-27-Announcement-COVID Vaccinations!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021-september-27-announcement-covid vaccinations.

  https://www.filemail.com/d/nvhztnqzuiyilhb.

  https://we.tl/t-jn7l6rjrxa.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hello,

  If Vaccine is personal matter ... how explain the GB give his own thinking about it

  And how explain they speak about JW that were against vaccin

  It's a non sens ... if it's a personnal matter ... GB has no reason to write a such letter ...

  It think , A Morris, is not alone to drink macallan Whisky :) :)

  Best Regards

  PS : Many thank Atlantis :)
• 
  51

  PIMO elder

  by Reservations in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m reservations, pimo elder.

  i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

  any ideas?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hi Reservation,

  Is it possible ?

  I'm PIMO too ( not elder ) ... since 3 or 4 years I did not preaching any more.

  When my children have a "bible study" ... I talk with them and explain why JW / WT are cult ,

  I say they could believe in God ... but the bible is not what the WT tell us.

  I think my wife ( who is jw pimi ) doesn't know that I talk to my children after each "Bible Study" ...

  I think my children will never become JW ... for me a little victory ...

  But, my wife .. it's not possible !

  She knows there are problems in the WT : pedophiles, money, manipulation .. but she always says "Jehovah will clean congregation at time" ...

  Despite the fact she was a victim too !!! and despites the facts that the pedophile said to elder some years ago

  she ask to elders if there where something in the congregation files ... Elder said "we have nothing" ...

  All that explanation to tell you , if JW doesn't want to listen to you , you can't change them .. I think the best you can do , is to observe , and maybe if you know some jw who was questioning about jw / WT problem to show where to find more information.

  You cannot tell all what you think ...

  If You do , you will be shunned ... look Rolf Furuli or Raymond Franz ...

  inside you can help some PIMI , outside you help PIMO ... the important it's finally you ... if you are better inside ( as me for personnal reason ) stay inside ... if you can quit ... I think the best is "quit" :)

  But not sure you can really help JW if they won't without be shunned yourself one day or another :(

  Best regards
• 
  30

  East Pennines A$$emb£y Hall

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, my spies tell me that the east pennines a$$emb£y hall is being sold and all proceeds going to jobo hq.

  there's a surprise.....not!.

  i understand there are other properties too.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hi,

  Don't know if it will be sell ... but alway referenced on jw dot org site

  https://apps.jw.org/ui/F/meeting-search.html#/weekly-meetings/search/E/Fretwell%20Road,%20Hellaby,%20Bramley,%20Rotherham,%20Royaume-Uni/53.42561,-1.237834//detail?id=38D8DB55-6A2D-4635-A9C1-D4EF8A8040B2

  As far as I know that it's the "East Pennines" Hall ( I live in France )

  I just take a look on Search Engine and compare to jwborg site

  Best Regards
  
  
  
• 
  5

  It looks like the WATCHTOWER—STUDY EDITION (SIMPLIFIED)'s last issue was December 2018

  by Disillusioned JW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i looks like the last issue of the "watchtower—study edition (simplified)" (at least in english) was the december 2018 issue - see https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=ws&yearfilter= .

  did anyone else notice that?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  keinlezard

  Hello,

  I think simplified version of "stupid" or "soothing" ( ? is it the right word ? ) version

  is a risk ... if WT over simplify her language , the risk is the message will become totally "no sense"

  The language of WT or Awake is allready simple , how to make it simplier without explain that you manipulate the word ... at the end , even stupids see you manipulate them

  no ?

  Best regards