Ditto......
I am so impressed. I could never think that fast. Good job, I say that even though I don't pray to anyone.
i went to the local post office today.. a car pulled up with 2 men and a young woman inside.. i smiled and said, "hi.
" the man who was driving waved, backed out of the parking space and moved 3 spaces down towards the next business in the strip mall.. the driver walked over and said, "i see you are still alive.".
i said, "yes, god has kept me alive for the last 3 years.
Ditto......
I am so impressed. I could never think that fast. Good job, I say that even though I don't pray to anyone.
That is some funnt sh#t!
i was pm with a@g and have with others here in the one-in-one-out marriage situation, and have a question.
time flies.....i have been considered apostate for at least two years now, and it seems my wife says she loves me all the time....almost makes me uncomfortable.
i have changed, not her, and i realize that.
Sorry Oompa, I wasn't out to piss you off by any means. I was just voicing my own opinion. I know, opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one. I should have been more considerate and not have been so straight forward. I hope you will accept my apology.
My wife also tells me she loves me even though she is still a dub. I also know she has her moments. Like when she is at home she is all smiles before she leaves to a meeting. Sometimes upon her return she's not the same person that left. She seems distant, quiet. sometimes she goes straight to the bedroom and watches TV.
I don't know if she is sad because I don't attend the meetings or if it is the personal talk at the KH. I would venture to say it is a little of both. I do feel that she still loves me and she may be afraid of losing me. We have had some serious discussion about our relationship and I have thrown it out more than once that if we cannot work things out it is time to see an attorney and she'll agree. After it is said and few hours go by she always says she wants to work it out, which is my preference. I don't want to lose her to religion.
It's been a month or so since anything has surfaced between me and my wife and that is a good sign. I continue to let her do her own thing and go to meetings, field service, assemblies, etc.. She doesn't try to persuade me to attend nor does she talk anything about the religion itself or anything spriritual around me. We seem to still be living a normal life just like we always have even before Jdubland. I still drop tidbits of my apostate information when the timing is right. Whether she listens or not I dunno.
Is there any guarantees? No. I may be in the same shoes you are or one of the many others here one of these days. She may eventually change her mind and desire a spiritual someone to be with her. Or, one day she may be persuaded by the BOE to ditch me. Which I will not let go without a fight.
I know you have your own desires but you are not the only one. We all have desires in life and I am sure your wife has desires too. When we marry we may have to put our own desires on hold or cancell them all together for the sake of our partner. I know I have and I have accepted it because I know it will never be achieved while respecting the wishes of my partner. I know she has probably given some up for me. It is all give and take.
Like I've said before, I do not know your entire situation. I do not know you or your wife personally and I hope the very best for you both.
Quirky
i was pm with a@g and have with others here in the one-in-one-out marriage situation, and have a question.
time flies.....i have been considered apostate for at least two years now, and it seems my wife says she loves me all the time....almost makes me uncomfortable.
i have changed, not her, and i realize that.
After several conversations like these I feel like you have already made your mind up as to what you want to do with your life and are looking for excuses in the relationship or a way to break it to her.
Maybe just looking for consolation here on JWD? I may sound cold but that's the vibe I get.
my daughter shannon had her baby this evening.
ashton weighed in at 6 lbs.
6 oz.
Congratulations A&W.
recently, i've heard from various jw family members that either i am viewed as "close to being an apostate" because i had made some comments suggesting that the fds is clearly wrong on many issues over the years or that i "have left jehovah" and therefor by my new way of life, i must be shunned.
while visiting my dying non jw uncle in the hospital, i was told outrightly that it was wished that i never showed my face and that my mere presence was objectionable and that since i "left jehovah", they could not talk to me any longer.. their viewpoints saddened me because they said all this in front of my uncle who can barely respond to anything.
his reaction: he cried his eyes out!
Oh, to answer your question.
Yes, I do believe I was shunned over the weekend at a family gathering.
I get the feeling of being ignored by a lot of people though.
I should be used to it.
recently, i've heard from various jw family members that either i am viewed as "close to being an apostate" because i had made some comments suggesting that the fds is clearly wrong on many issues over the years or that i "have left jehovah" and therefor by my new way of life, i must be shunned.
while visiting my dying non jw uncle in the hospital, i was told outrightly that it was wished that i never showed my face and that my mere presence was objectionable and that since i "left jehovah", they could not talk to me any longer.. their viewpoints saddened me because they said all this in front of my uncle who can barely respond to anything.
his reaction: he cried his eyes out!
If you want it pm me with your e-mail and I'll send it to you.
recently, i've heard from various jw family members that either i am viewed as "close to being an apostate" because i had made some comments suggesting that the fds is clearly wrong on many issues over the years or that i "have left jehovah" and therefor by my new way of life, i must be shunned.
while visiting my dying non jw uncle in the hospital, i was told outrightly that it was wished that i never showed my face and that my mere presence was objectionable and that since i "left jehovah", they could not talk to me any longer.. their viewpoints saddened me because they said all this in front of my uncle who can barely respond to anything.
his reaction: he cried his eyes out!
I have the new DO book on pdf.
i understand many of us here are ex-jw's and have had many experiences leaving the religion.
i am looking for those who have had success in helping others to leave the organization?
how did you accomplish it?
Well, I guess there are no serious takers.
i understand many of us here are ex-jw's and have had many experiences leaving the religion.
i am looking for those who have had success in helping others to leave the organization?
how did you accomplish it?
No other takers?