Posts by IcingHeart

Yeah, I was(am) kind of the odd duck in the congregation, so I was (is) usually the last person picked. Though this one sister usually wants to work with me, and if she's there, I work with her. Just recently, I joined her on some calls (yay no work for me) and told her I had to be home by 12:30, I didn't give her a reason (I just wouldn't be able to stand FS for longer), but made it a very important point. On her last call at like 11:30, we were invited in, she kept talking, talking, talking, I nudged her like three times (12:15, 12:20, then 12:30) and we were standing in the doorway, on the way out, with the door wide open, and she would not STFU! We FINALLY got out, she asked what time it is, I told her 12:30, so she freaked out about losing track of time, and was late to her pioneer meeting. She had the nerve to ask me if I could wait an hour before she drove me home so she could go. I was thinking, hell no, are you nuts? How many times did I say 12:30?! I told her I would walk home if I had to. She drove me to kingdomhall and made me call my mom to come pick me up. How inconsiderate! These morons put the borg before their friends.

This wouldn't be an issue, but I have to fake this whole witness crap. I was faking my hours, but maybe my parents were concerned that I didn't even go out once for two or three months, yet filled in service time. Hehheh...

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Opinions on Revealing the "Truth" To Dub Friends...

by IcingHeart in

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i was wondering if i could get some opinions or help on this matter... .

you see, i have two jw friends i still converse with over the phone.

they don't live in my state, so i can't see them too often.

IcingHeart

Thanks for the helpful responses. And thanks for the free bump, OnTheWayOut :D

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Opinions on Revealing the "Truth" To Dub Friends...

by IcingHeart in

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i was wondering if i could get some opinions or help on this matter... .

you see, i have two jw friends i still converse with over the phone.

they don't live in my state, so i can't see them too often.

IcingHeart

I was wondering if I could get some opinions or help on this matter...

You see, I have two jw friends I still converse with over the phone. They don't live in my state, so I can't see them too often. They had no knowledge of how I really felt about the borg until recently.

Now, these two dubs are best friends, but quite opposite. While they both whole heartedly believe in the "truth" one of them is generally nice and shy, very clean morally. The other is a bit more "loose" I guess you could say, cursing, obscene jesting, whatever.

I spoke to the first one about a few issues I had with the borg, but our main topic was really about the blood issue, and how absurd it is to respect the symbol of life more than life itself. Karvel helped me out with my friend on three-way, thank goodness. He has such a way with words. We left my friend dumb founded, and you could feel the cognitive dissonance oozing from their being. My friend hasn't called me back yet, for they say that research is needed to come up with an answer (yeah, good luck finding anything :p)

The other person, however, has recently been disfellowshipped, so of course, everyone is supposed to shun them and "not even utter a greeting," including their best friend. I wasn't given specific details, but this one was DF for doing something sexual with someone of the opposite sex. So the best friend tells me this, and tells me they won't be talking for awhile. I voiced how I felt about disfellowshipping, and how it's wrong and unbiblical, and that someone in this situation needs encouragement, not shunning, and especially from the best friend. (this conversation actually happened before I spoke to them about the blood). So I sent the DF friend a nice email that basically said they were free to contact me whenever, and my friendship is not conditional. They didn't respond, so I called, and we just talked normally for awhile; though my friend mentioned reading my email. Then they asked if I knew why they were DF, and we talked, and I said how I felt about disfellowshipping (thanks to JWFacts), but they actually felt it wasn't that bad, and it's a good form of punishment for those who don't love Jehovah enough to avoid bad situations.

So, basically, I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. Any help is greatly appreciated. Sorry for the long post...

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one aspect of mind control is thought control by using "loaded language"

by megaflower in

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we all know the wts has its own set of words and expressions that make them unique and sets them a part from other organizations.

lets see how many we can come up with.

i'll start.

IcingHeart

"With friends like those who needs enemies????" My sentiments exactly.

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Do you enjoy listening to music from another generation?

by JH in

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some people only like recent music, maybe because they don't want to identify themselves to an older generation.. often, i'll listen and download music that played when i was a kid, and really enjoy it..

IcingHeart

I enjoy various forms of music from other generations, but I like modern stuff too. One of my favorites that come to mind from another generation is Cab Calloway. His voice was so smooth, and I love that scatting. Plus, he was just so darn sexy!

One of my favorite clips of him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWtHeJPgbXo

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How did you find this site?

by truthseeker in

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it seems as though an age has passed from discovering this site seven years ago to where i am now.

just before we started studying the daniel's prophecy book, i went online to see if anyone had made a study bookmark with the dates and paragraphs on.

i "stumbled" across this site, way back in 2000. of course, like a good christian i pretty much determined that this site had gone apostate from the other jw sites, such.

IcingHeart

My friend told me about it :p

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When a JW, what did you think about human fossils of 1.2 million years

by LouBelle in

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when i was in and documentaries came on the telly about human fossils being found dated 800 000 years old or 1.2 million years old i would always say - they surely must have the dating process wrong (hello - i'm not expert) or would try find a loop whole to make sure that the belief of mans' 6/7000 year existance.. i also used to reason that they were probably a species of apes or forgeries - anything to make myself believe we as jws' were right - i did this without even "thinking" really - like breathing.. i even studied science & biology at school and would also have to come up with ""excuses"" for this or that.

ag what did we know we were only kids, but when you become an adult and have adult reasoning faculties one can't ignore the facts.. so what did you create as a safe bubble when things like this came up?.

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IcingHeart

Thanks for the link! It'll be nice to go over it with an open mind :)

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New " Witness Only " Watchtower - Even More Controlling - Check this Out

by flipper in

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it had been 5 years or more since i even read a watchtower article after exiting the witness cult in late 2003. but i was curious to see if the new " witness only " watchtowers were more controlling than i remember them being 5 years ago.

and it certainly opened my eyes to the extreme control.

when you have been away from it - you can really see the difference !

IcingHeart

"If any statements come to our ears that are critical of the truth or that cast aspersions on the congregation, the elders, or any of our brothers, we do not accept them at face value. Rather we ask: "Is the one spreading this story acting in harmony with what the Bible says? Do these stories or allegations further Jehovah's purpose? Do they promote the peace of the congregation?" Anything we hear that tears down the brotherhood rather than builds it up is a worthless thing."

Um hello? Wouldn't the first question that comes to mind be, "Well, is it true?" They print every other question under the sun, but that one? Hmm, suspicious...