I used to feel that dating methods used were wrong because dubs are supposed to believe the world is only 7,000 years old. I actually thought the creation book was intellectual and correct on everything! My friend pointed me to a website that analyzed the entire book and showed how the borg cleverly used partial quotes to mislead people into thinking that professionals agree with their teachings, but when you look at the entire context of which the quote(s) were taken, it's obvious that their intended meaning was changed. And there's one guy that's quoted prominently as an expert, but he was actually some quack who never went to college and believed in aliens or something.
This actually happened about a year ago, but at the time, cognitive dissonance didn't allow me to really understand how manipulative and cultish this religion is...
IcingHeart
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When a JW, what did you think about human fossils of 1.2 million years
by LouBelle inwhen i was in and documentaries came on the telly about human fossils being found dated 800 000 years old or 1.2 million years old i would always say - they surely must have the dating process wrong (hello - i'm not expert) or would try find a loop whole to make sure that the belief of mans' 6/7000 year existance.. i also used to reason that they were probably a species of apes or forgeries - anything to make myself believe we as jws' were right - i did this without even "thinking" really - like breathing.. i even studied science & biology at school and would also have to come up with ""excuses"" for this or that.
ag what did we know we were only kids, but when you become an adult and have adult reasoning faculties one can't ignore the facts.. so what did you create as a safe bubble when things like this came up?.
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Just curious--how many Dubs/ex-Dubs have come to JWD in the last year?
by Alpaca ini have the sense that we are seeing a lot more open dissent on jwd with dubs who are still in the borg or fading.. what do you guys think?.
how many have recently left or are in the process of leaving as a result of jwd or other related sites that expose the borg?.
what was the final straw that did it?.
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IcingHeart
Alpaca,
Yeah, I've only been here for about two weeks :p I have been kinda very carefully testing the waters with my mom. I'll bring up an itty bitty point every now and then if it happens to naturally come up in conversation. I surprise myself at how easy it is to slip something in. So far, we've talked about false dates, the Malawi/Mexico fiasco, the blood doctrine, pedophiles, and women's rights. While I can tell she agrees with me to some extent, she always finds a way to end the topic by saying that only some things may be wrong but the majority of the religion makes sense.
My dad, however, is quite the stubborn old man, and I dare not say anything to him. Though I did say something once about the watchtower article after the memorial, in that Jesus wasn't in there, and how it's strange that they would de-emphasize him, but he said that Jesus was in there as a baby. Wow, one paragraph, whoopdee frickin doo! It was during the meeting, so I really couldn't make the response I wanted.
This road of mind will definitely be interesting, and tough. But the JW boards, as well as a certain someone, is making that journey much better for me. -
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Just curious--how many Dubs/ex-Dubs have come to JWD in the last year?
by Alpaca ini have the sense that we are seeing a lot more open dissent on jwd with dubs who are still in the borg or fading.. what do you guys think?.
how many have recently left or are in the process of leaving as a result of jwd or other related sites that expose the borg?.
what was the final straw that did it?.
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IcingHeart
My mind is completely set free, but I'm still "in" because of my family. I have older parents, and I really don't want to break their hearts and tell them how I really feel. Even if they'd give me the time of day to listen to what I have to say, they would feel that the last years of their life was totally wasted, and I just don't want to do that to them...
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Things to wear at mtg that will raise eyebrows but won't get you into 2...
by cognac inmuch trouble... or, things to do at the mtg that will raise eyebrows but won't get you into to much trouble.. i've been thinking about this since i still go.
i'm surprised at how much a person can get away with if they are in a hall that they have no family in that particular kingdom hall.... at the memorial i put on so much dark eye make-up i was shocked my husband didn't say anything walking out the door.
instead, i got compliments, lol, not exactly what i planned on.... one of my friends who faded went to the memorial and she had a pretty low cut shirt on.
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Lately, I've been "sluttin' it up" at my meetings just to see how long it takes for someone to say something. I wore one of my sluttiest outfits to the memorial; spagghetti-strap tank top, showing lots of back and chest, short skirt showing lots of leg, and these platforms:
Look at that playboy insignia!
To my shock, I got the most compliments on this outfit, and no one said anything negative
Of course, my buddy suggests I should lay low since no one knows how I really feel about the dubs...
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Who's Going to the Memorial Tonight?
by daniel-p inok everyone, who has to go to the memorial tonight?
check in here, state the reason you have to go, and when you get back, let us know how it went and your impressions.
for me, i have to go for my family--since i'm doing the fade i figure it won't kill me to go.
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I went tonite, because my family doesn't know about all the forbidden research I've been doing. They have no idea that I've freed my mind. So I have to go to every meeting, inlcuding memorial.
Ours was at a country club, and it seemed like there were less people than last time, but that could be because it was just our congregation and we weren't sharing.
Nothing too spectacular to report. There was the outline of 12 minutes for jesus and 21 minutes for explaining who partakes and why you should get baptized. But there was one thing: While they were passing the bread and wine, the speaker read from some new book (not sure which one) about jesus's death and what he had to endure. This is the first time I've ever been to a memorial and not have to sit and listen to deafening silence. Did anyone who went tonight had this happen as well?
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What-A-Coincidence: Are you for serious? O_o
Layla33: I'll just rip out my stripper heels ;)
And I agree, they're taking away what little freedom and individuality one can have in this cult. Yeesh... -
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This is most definitely not a joke. While they were reading the letter about the brochure at the meeting, I could NOT stop laughing my ass off! I wasn't very loud, but those behind me could see my shoulders laughing. I think they said something to eachother about it. The next part was an entire question box dedicated to what and what not to wear at bethel. I decided to take a bathroom break, and while I was walking down the aisle, I could feel people looking at me because my skirt was the same length as the "short skirt" not allowed in the brochure. Not to mention that I've been regularly wearing fishnets to the meeting for about a month now. I want to see how long I can get away with it before I get talked to. LOL
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Hmm, if I'm ever dragged to one of these, I think I may wear a pair of pants under my skirt.
Better yet, crazy stockings!
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Watchtower Comments THE MEMORIAL Video
by V incheck it out!.
watchtower comments exposes the memorial.
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Wow. What bastards.
You know, I feel like partaking of the emblems this Saturday, and if anyone objects, I'll just tell them straight up "Oh, Jehovah spoke to me and said I was annointed!" -
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10 things to do before you die....
by lfcviking inin no particular order, how about..... 1. do a sky dive/bungee jump.
2. meet the ruler of your country.
3. go to a football world cup final.. 4. do a streak whilst pissed out of your head.
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IcingHeart
In no particular order...
1. Get a tattoo.
2. Travel to favorite destinations.
3. Learn Japanese.
4. Live in Japan for awhile, then settle in Los Angeles.
5. Be a chef at a great vegan resaurant.
6. Open up my own food place.
7. Get a massage.
8. Go totally organic.
9. Grow my own food.
10. Learn how to sew.
There's more, I'm sure...
