Posts by Quester55

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I confess - I LIKE fruitcake

by Nathan Natas in

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who, in your opinion, makes the best fruitcake?.

if you don't, you can send your doorstops to me.

i'll douse 'em in rum, brandy or bourbon and then have them with a cup of tea.. *hic*.

Quester55

I love fruitcake too. Always have, even as a little kid.

Q

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Analogy of the Cave

by Quester55 in

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anyone remember aristotle's parable of the cave?

about the people who lived at the bottom of a vast cavern and the only contact they had with the 'outside world' was their own reflected shadows onto a wall, and the only voices they heard were their own?

one of them breaks free and finds his way to the surface, he beholds the sun, moon and stars, he see trees, flowers, other plants and animals - he sees the world!

Quester55

Thank you my friends, it was indeed Plato. In my enthusiasium to post, I got my philosophers wrong. I had opportunity to talk with an elder yesterday, he is very sympathetic because he too suffers from depression and has a daughter who suffers and takes meds for clinical depression. I told him it hurts too much to walk into the same Kingdom Hall that I went too when I had a husband, and to see all the people there who knew us when we were together. He was surprisingly kind. Of course I didn't tell him that I was attending the Methodist Church and felt more encouragement and uplifting there than I've EVER felt at the KH. I asked him why don't we have programs to help children and teenagers to learn computer skills, programs to feed the hungry and the homeless, etc...his answer was we do those things, but they are not organized or part of our ministry because then we would become distracted. I didn't fully understand and I guess like the little cave dweller who got free, I can't go back to a closed mind,. I think Christianity is about helping our fellow man/woman. Not to judge him/her, but to help them, point them to God as the ultimate source of ALL good things, and to be kind to others and to treat others as we ourselves want to be treated.

Peace Out,

Quester 55 (L

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Going to Church

by excito-are in

i went to church in my local town while the witnesses attended the perth assembly.

it was a good sermon and i actually felt very upbuilt and refreshed after listening to it.

i really thought i would of felt guilt or some negative feeling for doing this, but quite the opposite.

Quester55

Its so interesting that we've all said the same thing pretty much. On the ocassions when I go to the Kingdom Hall, I leave out of there needing a drink, a good cry, feeling despondent and like I am the most worthless piece of you know what on the face of the planet. I have started attending the church of my childhood, the United Methodist Church and never have I felt so loved, so uplifted, so wanted. I really believe that I will find a good man to marry someday very soon in the Methodist Church, I know that I've found a loving and forgiving God who cares and is genuinely interested in the total me, not just how many hours I've clocked or if I've attended all the meetings in a month.

Quester

Very soon, I hope to be able to truthfully introduce myself by my real name. I'm a bit of a chicken, but I'm am working on resumes and sending them out, for me it will be easier to just walk away without a backward glance, but to do that I need a job and a place to live, once I have those two things, I'm gone, and those things are now shall we say, 'in the mix'

Q

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Analogy of the Cave

by Quester55 in

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friends

anyone remember aristotle's parable of the cave?

about the people who lived at the bottom of a vast cavern and the only contact they had with the 'outside world' was their own reflected shadows onto a wall, and the only voices they heard were their own?

one of them breaks free and finds his way to the surface, he beholds the sun, moon and stars, he see trees, flowers, other plants and animals - he sees the world!

Quester55

Anyone remember Aristotle's parable of the cave? About the people who lived at the bottom of a vast cavern and the only contact they had with the 'outside world' was their own reflected shadows onto a wall, and the only voices they heard were their own? One of them breaks free and finds his way to the surface, he beholds the sun, moon and stars, he see trees, flowers, other plants and animals - he sees the world! Finally he returns to the dwellers in the cave and tries to tell them about the wonders he has beheld, they label him as being a heretic, crazy, forbid him to talk about his "wild ideas" The dwellers in the cave are the JW's who only contact with reality is through the pages of their own magazines, books and bible We (faders, da'd, df'd) have been enlightened, we have cared enough to learn the actual REAL truth and when we try to tell our family and loved ones about the many inconsistencies within the WTBTS, what happens? At first we are frowned upon and encouraged to 'get yourself together', this sets up a tremendous amount of emotional pressure, for, how can one forget what one has learned and simply pretend that all is well, when you know darn well that everything is NOT well No the Borg doesn't like independent thinking because a thinking man or woman is a clear danger to the mind-warping control they wish to exercise over the rank and file JW. I work with a JW who was thrilled when I first became a JW, now that she can clearly see that I have changed, 'nose piercing, celebrating my birthday and my 'worldly friends' going to clubs, dancing, drinking and mention of a boyfriend) Once in a while she'll ask me. "How are you with the truth? Are you still one of JW's" I always give her the same answer, I have serious doubts about many teachings and I am still searching God's word. When I say that, her eyes roll 'round in her head and she leaves me alone.

Peace Out,
LRynda

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Did Your District Conventions Have A Meat Market?

by Jeremy C in

i was recently thinking back upon some of my unusual memories of being in the organization.

one of them was of the dodger stadium "meat market".. we used to attend our district conventions at dodger stadium in los angeles.

for those of you who arent familiar with the stadium, dodger stadium has a very large level with blue seats - which is the largest level within the stadium.

Quester55

Let me just put it out there! Any body looking for a wife 1957 model original parts ( a few are missing, but nothing essential) No creaks, dings or scrapes. ( unless you count surgical scars) Time-tested, thrifty, sexy, smart and faithful. Between 50 - 60 yrs. Anybody interested?

ROFLMAO \Quester55

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If you are still active JW, do you enjoy being around JW?

by asilentone in

do you enjoy their company when they invite you to their homes?

etc...

Quester55

It is sooooooooooo annoying being around self-righteous witlessness!! If they spent as much time being kind and gracious to others as they spend attacking other religious groups and organizations, they would find out that people wouldn't dislike them so much. I do NOT enjoy being them, because invariably the conversation turns to the 'joys' of field service, meetings and how many hours somebody sat listening to yet another talk. I'd rather hang out with my girlfriends at the local VFW on a Saturday night, drinking cranberry juice and vodka and dancing the two step.,

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Do JW's intentionally act so as to bring persecution on themselves?

by gaiagirl in

some witnesses state that "gods people will be persecuted" or "if you are not being persecuted, then you better examine your life".

a jw who works where i do poured the last cup of coffee out of the pot, and was asked to make another pot for the other workers.

he responded "sorry, i have to go to work now".

Quester55

I work with one of these idiots and she gets on my last nerve! She doesn't really know if I am in or if I am out and so she tries to ask all sorts of leading questions. We had a pot luck at work the other day and whuile she HARDLY EVER brings anything she's the first one there to pile her plate and "take some food home for her mom" We ladies are sitting around talking about work, ( we're preschool teachers and when teachers get together we usually talk shop) Here she pipes up, "Now, L--- Do you still go to U---congregation? Whos your circuit overseer? When is you assembly now? Is it December or January?" I totally ignore her, acted like I didn't even hear her. Two days later she goes, ' How are you with DA TROFF ( the truth) ?" I looked at her and said, "Ya know, after doing a lot of research and study and prayful consideration, there are just some things I no longer believe. I can't believe." She fixed her mouth to ask me what, but I walked away from her. Every JW is programmed to ignore the evidence of their own eyes, and will go into Watchtower Defense Mode at the drop of a hat. She didnt let it rest, after work, I was leaving to go to the parking lot to get my car and she goes, "Are you going out in the tract work this weekend?" I just looked at her and said a loud, crisp, "NO" and kept going. She is trying to find out if I'm still a JW. Thats all it is. So I guess when I finally go off on her and read her the riot act then she'll really have something to share back at Borg Headquarters. Over the years, I've listened to her take over conversations with coworkers and work a "witness" into it. She loves to find out the worst things that happen on the news and bring that to everyone's attention, and then she'll say, " You see...you see..we're in the last days...last days!" Nobody really llikes her, she is a pain in the behind. She is obnoxious and rude and totally for herself. So yeah, I say JW's do stuff to make themselves disliked personally and then run around saying, "People don't like us because we serve God" They love to flip the script. No wonder most of them have mental problems, you've got to look for ways to annoy people.

Quester55

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Jehovah's Witness Shot Dead; Daughter's Boyfriend is Suspect

by Kenneson in

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in cornwall, united kingdom.

see "businessman shot dead and wife critically injued at country home".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3042554/businessman-shot-dead-and-wife-critically-injured-at-country-home.html.

Quester55

This is such a tragedy. No one can deny that. However, watch the Witnesses take this as fodder for their twisted views on love and romance. One witness should only marry another witness because the "worldlings" are all so evil and will kill us all! I got an email the other day from a sister in which all good little witnesses are cautioned to avoid the worldlings at all costs!! Oh they get on my nerves so damn much!!! What about all those fine, upstanding Christian witness brothers who beat their wives, cheat on their wives, mistreat and rape children. (Shhhhhh...we don't want to talk about that, right?)

The Witnesses would rather a single woman who wants to be married stay single for the rest of her life than marry a man who is not a witness. In fact if yousay you've met someone, the first question you getasked, "Is he a witness?" and when yousay no, they drop their eyes and shake their heads and make those sad little clucking noises and say "Sister, would;nt it be better to wait for Jehovah send you a good christian brother?" To which I replied, how do you know this isn't the man for me? Maybe he is, maybe he ain't. But why do I have to be lonely? There aren't any suitable brothers. Either they are too old, too young or just downright weird. The few, ( and I mean few) who might be alright think that they are God''s gift to womankind. ( Nevermind that most of them work part time at Wal-mart stocking the shelves. Not a putdown on anyone who happens to do that, y'all know what I mean.) I've noticed that a lot of them are more interested in sisters who have good paying jobs, late-model cars and their own home. I wonder if thats just a West coast thing or is that all over?

Quester55

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I live in a JW apartment complex - does anyone else here also live in one?

by BonaFide in

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how much longer are you going to stay there?

Quester55

I live in a complex like that and it is pure Hell!!! I came here after my divrce because of finances and at the time I was a faithful little witness. Now, I'm just staying here until I can get my degree, get a better paying job. Then I will complete my fade. I'm moving to the Inland Empire. Maybe Riverside, maybe somewhere else. But I am single and so I amwatched. My boyfriend is out of town right now on business and before that I would leave for some weekends away with him. I always said I was spending time with a girlfriend of mind who lived outside of the city. I don't know if anybody susects anything, but they cant prove nothing. Bottom line, it's no fun living here because the only thing one is supposed to want to do is...you guessed it...MEETINGS & FIELLD SERVICE and ocassionally go out to eat at some restaurant.

Quester55

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My family wants me to see a Psychiatrist

by BonaFide in

so i have posted on here about my conversations with my family.

i toned it down a little when they got really upset, so many on this board told me to be careful.

but yesterday my sister called me.

Quester55

I have to agree with all the posters here, and I'll add one small bit of insight. Every single, solitary time I make myself go to a meeting, I come home and its all I can do to keep from bursting into tears in the parking lot. I feel SOOOOOOOOOOO depressed at the Kingdum Hall. When I stay away and especially spend time with my boyfriend I feel like a brand new woman! I am happy, I am light. I am free. Walking into a Kingdom Hall feels like walking into a prison where I am forced to sit and listen to nonstop putdowns of everything that makes like interesting and enjoyable. School is wrong. In my hall wanting to be married is wrong, having children is wrong, wanting a decent job is wrong, wanting to travel, to entertain to have a late-model car is all wrong, wrong, wrong. I'm so glad I'm in school. It won't be long til I get my degree and get the hell out of dodge!

Quester55

(The day I graduate,I'm signing my real name!) For right now I've got to be cool, do what I've gotta do til I can do what I want!