Posts by eljee

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Further Education - WTS ups the pressure

by dozy in

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the wts are upping their opposition to further education.. at our recent co visit , much of a talk on youth concerned the evils of college & university education.. the meeting of the elders & ms included a similar but harder line section , stating that the appointed men should set an example.

the question was raised does an elder continue to qualify for his privilege if he , his wife , or his child goes to further education.

what attitude is he showing regarding the fds stated view on this matter?.

eljee

I've been in college for the past year (oooohhhh don't tell anyone) but taking classes online. If you do it right, you can get a 4 year degree in no time.... The tuition is dirt cheap at $2000 a semester. Check it out at www.cuny.edu/online. You can take CLEP tests that replace college credit andsave you time. I'll be getting a 4 year degree in about a year, perfectly legit....

In my case, I second what is being said. Being in college opened my mind up to critical thinking so that I could put the doubts that I have had together and realize that the WTS doesn't add up. Had I not gone to college online I would probably be wondering, something doesn't compute, but I can't put my finger on it.

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VERY BAD NEWS...my son is going to Bethel............

by oompa in

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i can not describe the sadness of hearing him tell me, i asked him to think about what a great part time job he has, with free schooling.

he says they will probably take him back.

his abilities are suitable for closing down brooklyn, so at least he will be there (i love nyc).

eljee

How does your son feel about 'dress codes' as outlined in the crap sent to the congregations to visit Bethel? The list of rules is truly astounding. Nice question, BtX... When I saw the dress codes it reminded me of the "Acceptable, Unacceptable" video I saw in Patterson when I went through Gilead. Now the congregations have the smae dress codes as Bethel, jeje...

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Nothing but the Blood - Chapter 4

by daniel-p in

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[this is the true story of my life.

i'm posting it in installments.

the final installment will include post-script-type thoughts, with acknowledgements to those who've helped me along these last two years, as well as those who've been an inspiration.

eljee

Thanks for the link to the reading. I'll take a PM subscription to the next parts... BTW, I can relate to much of what you are saying as I served in Bklyn from 1989 and got kicked out in 1992.

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Sex and JWs I want to know what you think "he played the God Card"

by jonie in

i was a jw but left about 8 years ago, my husband wanted to go back so we have tried, i did not do so good.

being gone so long just helped me realize this is totally false, i look at the jws as lambs being lead to their deaths.. fast forward to now, we are both in our 40s and i have had medical side effects from using birth control and other meds as birth control.

my body can not take anymore, i have suffered breast cyst and uterus cyst, so i asked my husband who has an issue with using condoms because he does not reach a climax, and has to masturbate, to use something that would offer us a permanent result such as him getting a vasectomy.. his reaction is like why i feel even more strongly that jws are wrong.

eljee

There was a brief time when sterilization was a conscience matter then they went back and said it was wrong. My wife had her tubal ligation done in that period of time, then has been traumatized that Jehovah is punishing her for doing so when the "old understanding" came back in vogue. I don't see why either of you don't get it done. Its a brief procedure, and it makes sex better since you don't have to worry about pregnancy. And by the way, as a male I have gotten used to using condoms and have no problem with it - for hygienic reasons.. my wife hates the afterdrip... And anyway, JW's aren't supposed to masturbate, so he is violating principles by doing that... sounds like a double standard to me...

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What do you do when you exit and your wife stays in?

by Quirky1 in

i have recently left the wts and almost have my da letter ready to send.

my wife is still in and is higly upset by my stand.

she is afraid she'll lose her parents because they are still jw's and refuses to leave the wts, she still beleives it.

eljee

Hi Quirky, I just joined this forum about 5 minutes ago and this is my 1st post. I am in a similar situation as you, although I have no kids. I have been doubting things for about 5 years, and finally have made up my mind to leave. I have been irregular for since Sept 07. The past few weeks have been tough for us. I went to a talk given by Gerrit Losch, and while my wife was excited about attending, I felt out of place and did not enjoy the talk... it just seemed weird to me. (I used to give the same outline... Are you marked for survival?, so I was familiar with it. This past weekend I went to a SAD and again just felt so out of place. I couldn't relate to the people in attendance, and couldn't get past Hi, how are you. But I have noticed that I have no problem starting and maintaining conversations with non-JW's. So, Sunday I decided to find out what all the fuss that the Society makes that we should not be checking out online... and my wife just freaked out and couldn't sleep on Sunday night... I've checked out a few ex-JW sites and this one seems interesting. Your post impressed me since I am going through the same thing. But my wife and I have been discussing separation for about 8 months anyway, so the only thing new is that I don't want to be a JW anymore. Feels scary and empowering at the same time. I don't know if you can send email or meesages but I would be happy to chat with you. I haven't been able to talk to anyone in the org who understands how I feel...