I noticed the other day that I saw 2 straight guys walking together in the neighborhood, will that give you a impression that they are gay?
And your point is?
i noticed the other day that i saw 2 straight guys walking together in the neighborhood, will that give you a impression that they are gay?
I noticed the other day that I saw 2 straight guys walking together in the neighborhood, will that give you a impression that they are gay?
And your point is?
a day or so ago, wife and i watched this money expert on some morning show.
she (the expert) seemed to advocate trading in your regular vehicle for one of those new hybrids in order to save money.
it sounded like a good idea -- till i put a pencil to it.
The new diesels from VW, Mercedes, and Honda don't have that diesel smell anymore. In fact you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference if you took one for a test drive and no one told you it was diesel. I have driven a Lancia Diesel in Europe recently and I had no idea it was a diesel until I noticed it on the fuel cap.
i was so adament with my husband about not meeting with them./ i said "no" under no uncertain terms that i did not want to have this meeting.
so, they have been hounding us for days about it, repeatedly asking.. finally, my husband and the elder both come up to me asking about it.
so i just said to elder that the last meeting was discouraging and i don't want to be put through that again.
I think of it like ripping off a band-aid. You can do the 'slow fade' and peel that bandage off slowly, or you can do the DF/DA thing and have it over and done with. In the end it doesn't really matter much, unless you are striving to save a family member or a relationship or something.
If you are doing the slow fade, just think of this as a game. Your superior knowledge against theirs. Pretend this is the local acting theater. At the end, who cares if you come off as over-acting, no?
For me the way the elders treated me, and how poorly they went about it, showed my family that they were a bunch of pervs, over-sexed, power hungry, douchebags on an ego trip. So, I got all of my immediate family out with me. :)
a day or so ago, wife and i watched this money expert on some morning show.
she (the expert) seemed to advocate trading in your regular vehicle for one of those new hybrids in order to save money.
it sounded like a good idea -- till i put a pencil to it.
The cost of the hybrid system IS NOT $7,500. As both Toyota and Honda have said many times, the current cost is around $4,000 to $4,200 more for the hybrid technology. Both Honda and Toyota have publically stated that the next generation hybrid due out in 2009 as both a Prius and a new model Honda will be around $1,900 more as they have refined the costs and technology. The new 09 Prius will get around 50 mpg vs. current 45 mpg, while making the car slightly larger, with 8% to 10% more total horsepower.
Comparing one car to a completely different car, with differing levels of options and equipment is not an apples to apples comparision. It's like comparing a Audi A4 to a VW Jetta. Both are made by the same manufacturer but far from being close to each other. The Audi runs $35,000 the VW runs more along the lines of $ 25,000.
mcclellan has recently published a book that is highly critical of bush and his administration.
mcclellan's book has understandably created a furor within the current presidential administration, an administration that has valued loyalty above all else.. mcclellan was a long-time bush loyalist, he started working for bush when bush was still govenor of texas.
mcclellan helped bush to enter the white house, and then followed bush to washington mcclellan became a spokesman for bush, defending the president on such issues as the war in iraq.
Not sure why this thread has gone astray with the bible beating troll, but back on topic; I really hope these men that stayed silent for so many years when they were in positions of power and COULD have done something can reconcile that now 4,000 dead young men and women fought for a b.s. war that they were complicit in. Real heros stand up when it is needed. Cowards stand up and say so when popular opinion has shifted and their paychecks no longer are being signed by those they have 'moral issues' with.
Some say 'better late than never'. Tell that to the dead 4,000 soliders, their families, and thier loved ones. See if that makes them feel any better.
just got this email!.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/15cnd-marriage.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss.
ben (celebratin' with friends).
Void: Carlos, you keep evading the issue by merely reasserting your position. The facts always show that diversity is a key survival characteristic for a species. Homosexual individuals do not detract from species survival, they enhance it. To take your position (the selfish gene being the only motivating factor for life) reducto absurdum, the human animal should be a loner with a murderous attitude toward progeny not his own. Clearly, we are more herd animal than that, and the most successful humans develop intricate social constructs. Aside from the limited studies of stepmother rejection of blended family siblings, he view you espouse is not highly supported in the limited frame you present it.
It's pretty telling that the various homophobes, and 'cause the bible says it's so' posters avoid the threads where the actual discussion and translation of Greek words, and what those words mean, isn't it? They sit here on the other threads saying "cause the bible says it's so", yet are nowhere to be found on the threads like: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/158996/2922477/post.ashx#2922477 . They claim to know what God says yet cannot or refuse to participate in discussion solely to ancient language and Greek understanding.
just got this email!.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/15cnd-marriage.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss.
ben (celebratin' with friends).
'Hissy fits'? LMAO. Says the guy who claims he doesn't care about homosexuality yet, over 1/4 of his posts all deal with his aversion to homosexuals, and homophbia. It's hard having a decent conversation with a super Christian, bible beating whack job too, that has admitted they have been duped by being in a cult for many years, but now, by miracles of all miracles, knows exactly what God has said.... this time.... nevermind the last time they said that being in a cult claiming they had special knowledge of God. LOL!
Carolos: Regarding "nature" - I was always taught that perpetuation of the species was the strongest natural instinct (and innate desire) of any species, specifically one's own genetics. So much so, in fact, that individual members of a species will self-sacrifice for the benefit of their procreated offspring.
Now that your bluff has been called you want to change the definition of your argument. Typical. Riddle me this, why do over 450 species engage in homosexual sex if it isn't 'natural'?
As the book Biological Exuberance, by Bruce Bagemihl, PhD and expert in sexuality so much so that the United States Supreme Court quoted him and his works stated:
mcclellan has recently published a book that is highly critical of bush and his administration.
mcclellan's book has understandably created a furor within the current presidential administration, an administration that has valued loyalty above all else.. mcclellan was a long-time bush loyalist, he started working for bush when bush was still govenor of texas.
mcclellan helped bush to enter the white house, and then followed bush to washington mcclellan became a spokesman for bush, defending the president on such issues as the war in iraq.
Whatever. This asshat is trying to save his political skin. As it is right now, his hopes of any political appointment or further career is toast. He was asked, specifically and repeatedly about the incidents before writing this book, all of which he denied previously. So which is it? Was he lying then? Or is he lying now? Or both?
mcclellan has recently published a book that is highly critical of bush and his administration.
mcclellan's book has understandably created a furor within the current presidential administration, an administration that has valued loyalty above all else.. mcclellan was a long-time bush loyalist, he started working for bush when bush was still govenor of texas.
mcclellan helped bush to enter the white house, and then followed bush to washington mcclellan became a spokesman for bush, defending the president on such issues as the war in iraq.
Yuck. Just another self-serving book trying to save face/career by distancing themselves from an inexcusable war, and a horrible President. Where was their 'honesty', 'self-reflection', and 'integrity' while they were in a position of power? It's as bad as Alan Greenspan's book trying to excuse himself from the greenlighting of the huge tax cuts, and resulting drunken sailor spending that have seriously put this country in a bind. Where was their outspokeness back when they could have made a difference? Funny how after no longer drawing a paycheck, and in a position of power, they find 'truth'.
just got this email!.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/us/15cnd-marriage.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss.
ben (celebratin' with friends).
Also at the University of Georgia they conducted a test on homophobia. They found:
'The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia …. The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored.
They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire… Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.'