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  Singing at the Meetings is so mindless...

  by logic&reason in

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  i was always uncomfortable singing at the meetings when i was a kid.

  as an adult, i rarely if ever sing anymore because i think it is a joke.

  sit down, listen for 45 minutes.

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  This thread is a compendium of many of the criticisms that have been voiced to the GB starting in the 90s. A good number of professional JW musicians have been involved in the songbook and other music projects. No one has been more critical of the Society than these individuals. The utter frustration of any constructive criticsm lies in the GB's presuming to understand how music should be used in worship. The unhappy results described in this thread are the result of micro-management by those who are not musicians and have no concept of the power of music in reaching the human heart.

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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-25-08 WT Study (VIEW)

  by blondie in

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  comments you will not hear at the 5-25-08 wt study (march 15, 2008, pages 25-29)(view).

  review comments will be in red.

  quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes.

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  Excellent slicing and dicing as always, Blondie.

  From my experience, the net effect of an article like this is to stoke the negative feelings of those in the congregation who cry "racism" and those who feel left out of congregation cliques. This is but one example of the many ways in which the Society works against itself.

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  where to go in LA area?

  by tsar_robles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi gals and guys,.

  i noticed there are quite a few of you that reside in the la area.... so i'd like to get some feedback about where to go & what to do in the la area; i'll be taking my family there in a week!.

  our budged only allowed us to book a nice hotel in the san fernando area (sylmar) which i have noticed is on the edge of the metro area... thus i hope there are hov lanes or something to that effect to avoid the famous traffic jams.... besides from the best routes to take to get around town, my wife and i have a couple more questions on tips for the main attractions, such as disneyland, best beaches to visit, good moderate priced restaurants, celeb sightseeings (lol) and anything else that i can keep my family entertained with.. i've been to san pedro pier on one ocassion but that's about it... any feedback or tips are welcomed!.

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  Wha Happened?: Bring it!

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  Dinner with Friends

  by sweet pea in

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  just wanted to post that besty and i had some guests over this weekend: dncall, whoknows and dagney.

  it was a real pleasure to spend time with you - you are great people and very brave to have taken a stand and put your money where your mouth is.

  it's been very painful coming to the realisation that everything we believed in has been a fairytale and as a result of calling "emperors new clothes!

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  Had a wonderful time. I don't want to steal whoknows' thunder. She loves to send thank you notes, and uses something we used to call the U.S. Mail.

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  where to go in LA area?

  by tsar_robles in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi gals and guys,.

  i noticed there are quite a few of you that reside in the la area.... so i'd like to get some feedback about where to go & what to do in the la area; i'll be taking my family there in a week!.

  our budged only allowed us to book a nice hotel in the san fernando area (sylmar) which i have noticed is on the edge of the metro area... thus i hope there are hov lanes or something to that effect to avoid the famous traffic jams.... besides from the best routes to take to get around town, my wife and i have a couple more questions on tips for the main attractions, such as disneyland, best beaches to visit, good moderate priced restaurants, celeb sightseeings (lol) and anything else that i can keep my family entertained with.. i've been to san pedro pier on one ocassion but that's about it... any feedback or tips are welcomed!.

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  With all due respect to the Canter's fans, I must recommend Nate N' Al in Beverly Hills. Best deli in LA, IMO. The New York sandwich will kill you, but you'll die happy. You stand a better chance of seeing celebrities there than any other place I can think of. It's on Beverly Drive.

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  70 Years of Jeremiah 25:11 = 609 BCE to 539 BCE?

  by DNCall in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  bablyon defeats assyria at the battle of harran (509 bce) and then babylon is defeated 70 years later (539 bce).. in verses 11and 12, jeremiah refers to a 70-year period of judah and the surrounding nations serving the king of babylon until the king of babylon is called to account.

  although the devastations of judah, jerusalem, its temple and jewish exiles are tied to this general time period, jeremiah does not speak of these events as defining the 70 years.. society chronology aside, isn't it irrelevant when the temple was destroyed, in determining the fulfillment of jeremiah's 70-year prophecy?.

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  Thank you both.

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  70 Years of Jeremiah 25:11 = 609 BCE to 539 BCE?

  by DNCall in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  bablyon defeats assyria at the battle of harran (509 bce) and then babylon is defeated 70 years later (539 bce).. in verses 11and 12, jeremiah refers to a 70-year period of judah and the surrounding nations serving the king of babylon until the king of babylon is called to account.

  although the devastations of judah, jerusalem, its temple and jewish exiles are tied to this general time period, jeremiah does not speak of these events as defining the 70 years.. society chronology aside, isn't it irrelevant when the temple was destroyed, in determining the fulfillment of jeremiah's 70-year prophecy?.

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  Bablyon defeats Assyria at the Battle of Harran (509 BCE) and then Babylon is defeated 70 years later (539 BCE).

  In verses 11and 12, Jeremiah refers to a 70-year period of Judah and the surrounding nations serving the king of Babylon until the king of Babylon is called to account. Although the devastations of Judah, Jerusalem, its Temple and Jewish exiles are tied to this general time period, Jeremiah does not speak of these events as defining the 70 years.

  Society chronology aside, isn't it irrelevant when the temple was destroyed, in determining the fulfillment of Jeremiah's 70-year prophecy?

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  Fractional Withdrawal

  by DNCall in

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  2. friends

  it occurred to me that by introducing the concept of accepting blood fractions as being a conscience matter, the society has established a precedent for the disposing of other unfounded teachings.. consider, for example, birthdays:.

  on your birthday it is allowable to eat cake.

  it is allowable to light a candle or candles.

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  It occurred to me that by introducing the concept of accepting blood fractions as being a conscience matter, the Society has established a precedent for the disposing of other unfounded teachings.

  Consider, for example, Birthdays:

  On your birthday it is allowable to eat cake. It is allowable to light a candle or candles. It is allowable to blow out a candle or candles. The foregoing may be allowed by your conscience so long as you, on your birthday, abstain from cake with candles on it and you refrain from blowing out the candles on the cake.

  Likely you can think of other examples where fractional withdrawal can enable the Society to abandon other unfounded teachings.

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  The 144,000, a Subset of "Spiritual Israel"?

  by DNCall in

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  2. bible

  this is an alternative to "spiritual israel" and the 144,000 being one and the same.. two scriptures might support the subset idea:.

  first, revelation 7:4-8 states that the 144,000 are "out of" the 12 symbolic tribes of "spiritual israel"--12,000 "out of" each tribe.

  this would indicate to me that "spiritual israel" is a larger body than the 144,000 (whether a literal number or not).. second, the new covenant is said to be between god and "spiritual israel," entitling its members to be children of god and brothers of christ.

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  This is an alternative to "Spiritual Israel" and the 144,000 being one and the same.

  Two scriptures might support the subset idea:

  First, Revelation 7:4-8 states that the 144,000 are "out of" the 12 symbolic tribes of "Spiritual Israel"--12,000 "out of" each tribe. This would indicate to me that "Spiritual Israel" is a larger body than the 144,000 (whether a literal number or not).

  Second, the New Covenant is said to be between God and "Spiritual Israel," entitling its members to be children of God and brothers of Christ. Once this covenant was initiated, Jesus then made a separate Covenant for a Kingdom with his apostles that would entitle them to "sit on thrones and judge the twelve tribes of Israel," a function more closely associated with the 144,000 (Luke 22:28-29; Revelation 20:4).

  Might the Covenant for a Kingdom be to the 144,000 what the New Covenant is to "Spiritual Israel"? The more expansive New Covenant would apply to the overall group, but the more limited Covenant for a Kingdom would apply to the subset group.

  The one hope for all Christians of being children of God and brothers of Christ would still apply, but a specific function would be assigned to those designated to be of the 144,000.

  Just a thought. Any ideas?

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  I was best friends with John Wayne

  by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

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  2. friends

  i thought it might be nice for each of us to tell about our relationships with famous people.

  here is how i was best friends with john wayne.. he has been gone for almost thirty years now, and boy do we ever miss him.

  where are you when we need you most duke?

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  DNCall

  Mel Brooks, Louis Jourdan, Jack Benny, Gene Wilder, Mel Torme, Jimmy Stewart, Marty Feldman. Those are the ones I've witnessed to at their doors. Had many return visits with Richard Anderson.

  My wife spent 30 minutes witnessing to Shelley Winters in her home one time.