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  Anyone remember going to Leimert Theater or the Valley Music Center?

  by Pandoras cat11 in

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  i have had tough week with reasons that i will not get into.

  it made me wonder if i could remember anything positive about this religion when i was growing up.

  the only few "happy" memories i can come up with were going to the leimert theater.

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  Hey Gregor,

  You don't mean "Tubby" Coleman do you?
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  RUSSIA deports and bans JW Attorneys

  by skeeter1 in

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  his article was published by f18news on: 23 july 2009. russia: jehovah's witness lawyers deported for defending extremism cases?by geraldine fagan, forum 18 news service <http://www.forum18.org>.

  four lawyers defending jehovah's witnesses have been deported since march, forum 18 news service has learned.

  a leaflet by a traditional mari el pagan priest is among the latest additions to the federal list of extremist materials, meaning it is banned throughout russia.

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  Wow! The King of the North is attacking God's people . . . and right on time!
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  WT typology and the NT

  by Narkissos in

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  this is a question that came to my mind from a couple of recent threads.. we are all familiar with the traditional wt use of typology on ot material (you know, ot characters and events being "types" of modern-day wt features and history, the latter being "antitypes" of the former).

  i'm not sure whether this interpretive method has been strictly restricted to ot texts (in fact i don't think so, because i doubt there has been much methodological thinking about it), but it seems to me that it has been only rarely applied to the nt.

  and i am wondering why.

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  They may well have thought along the lines of what you present. However, from my perspective, it seems that rather than try to shore up the intellectual side of things, they are more focused on stopping the bleeding of membership. There is now at least one GB member who wants to emphasize the emotional side so as to contain this problem.

  Under his supervision, the new songbook has been designed to appeal more to emotion and less to intellect. After all, songs are an emotional vehicle--not so much an intellectual one. The new songs are written in a number of cases by professional musicians and contain lyrics with greater emotional appeal. This year's drama reflects the emotional approach as well. It is telling that the majority of the new material released or announced at the District Convention emanates from the audio/video department.

  Whether this approach is successful remains to be seen. Any time you try to amp up the emotion, unless you really know what you're doing, you run the risk of also amping up what I call the "cheese factor".

  Whether shoring up intellect or emotion, the reality is that time is against them. When I was still associating three years ago, the thing you always heard was "the friends are tired." Solomon had it right: "Expectation postponed is making the heart sick."
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  What Has Hurt You Most About Being A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  for me, it's not having a "normal" childhood.

  being raised a jw will make you miss out on ordainary kid things.

  you can't have any friends except witnesses---and only jws that measure up.

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  Not having gone to college.
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  How do you respond to the JW statement: "The First Century had congregations, preaching, Elders, Servants, C.O.'s, and so do we!

  by BonaFide in

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  well?.

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  bf.

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  DNCall

  I sent you a PM.
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  POLL Do you think the average JW is happy?

  by aSphereisnotaCircle in

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  i noticed on another thread a poster stating that he felt that unhappy jw's were in the minority.. .

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  As one Circuit Overseer told me about three years ago, "half of the friends are on Prozac and the other half should be."

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  70 years = 607?

  by allelsefails in

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  70 years of captivity?.

  i myself have always believed that when archaeology disagreed with the bible the bible must be right.

  that is how i dismissed the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 586/587 bce.

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  I suggest you Google "John Aquila Brown". In the mid-1800s he published his theory that there is a connection between the seven times of Neb's insanity and the appointed times of the nations mentioned by Jesus in Luke 21. Charles Taze Russell appropriated Brown's theory. You have correctly stated that the 1914 chronolgy is rendered moot if there is, in fact, no such connection, as Brown theorized.

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  Memorial Problem

  by InTheSpotlight in

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  looks like a good place to get info and share ideas.. o.k.

  my first question:.

  i am a christian.

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  I would go with No. 2. You will see that the event is basically an infomercial for the Watchtower Society and a device for taking a census of possible new converts. Any communion that the scattered few who partake have is incidental to the main thrust of the event. I say this having presided over a number of "Memorials."

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  May 15th Watchtower - New Light?

  by slimboyfat in

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  the new watchtower asks the question: "when was satan cast out of heaven?

  - rev 12:1-9".

  and the answer it gives is: "so, then, the bible does not reveal the exact time when satan and his demons were expelled from heaven.

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  This thread has really reminded me of how hard it is to interpret what is being taught in the Society's literature. I think it's because, on one hand, they want to give the impression that they've figured out Bible chronology and on the other hand, the fact that they're just guessing.

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  May 15th Watchtower - New Light?

  by slimboyfat in

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  the new watchtower asks the question: "when was satan cast out of heaven?

  - rev 12:1-9".

  and the answer it gives is: "so, then, the bible does not reveal the exact time when satan and his demons were expelled from heaven.

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  The ouster of the "great dragon" and his demons from heaven was apparently fully accomplished by the end of World War I. According to Revelation 11:1, 2, the "holy city" was trampled on by the Gentile nations "for forty-two months," from autumn of 1914 to the spring of 1918.

  "Fully accomplished" are the operative words in this quote. They do not take away from the ouster in the autumn of 1914. World War I began on 6/28/14 and ended on 11/11/18, a period of over four years. Freddy whimsically applied the forty-two months (3.5 years) of Revelation to some time within the World War I period. Don't try to figure it out beyond that. I doubt that Freddy could have explained it if challenged.

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